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    Posted: 08 Jan 15 at 6:48am

This has been a very interesting thread,  sailing is doing quite well out of Govt funding with lots of kit being purchased and clubs updated etc,  but needs to do far more to promote itself and get more people out on the water.

Originally posted by davidyacht

However, I have pointed out previously, there really needs to be a forum for Flag Officers and club managers to communicate with each other and learn from the others experiences ... Come on Y&Y grab this initiative!


There used to be an annual club and class gathering at the end of year,  I have attended a few and found very useful,  not sure what has happened to these get togethers.

The Software Sailing Alliance has been running workshops for local clubs to discuss how technology can help improve participation.  The first two were well attended (12 clubs),  with lots of discussions between the clubs and sharing experiences etc.

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More workshops planned for 2015,  including one at the Dinghy Show
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Originally posted by Rupert

Many small club members would be lost the sport, I think. Some of us decide on the club because of atmosphere, or the kind of sailing/training on offer. Anyone have any idea how many Evesham members settled elsewhere? Or Wraysbury Lake? I don't suppose there is any way of knowing.


Very true about the atmosphere, but the joy of our sport is the diversity of clubs from small puddle clubs to big pay to play ones. People can always find a club that suits their needs.
From personal experience when Warwick sailing club shut, all but two families joined local small traditionally clubs(happily mostly going to mwyc) ignoring our biggest and closest club, draycote. But on the other hand both the families that did go to draycote are still there and heavily involved in running the club( one of them is the py guru, Chris g). It's just horses for courses.

Re Evesham. The only info I have is on some of the moth sailors.
Two went to earlswood, both happy there and still sailing regularly.
Two went to frampton on severn, one is happy and still sailing there.The other one moved again to bartley, think it could have had something to do with his son being in the squad system.


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We have been in existence for 65 years this year and are still surviving with good-ish turnouts.  We really are friendly but not pushy and there is no one in the club who I do not like. Our tea is cheap and our views beautiful. We are also well organised have good facilities and provide enthusiastic racing with two National Champions in the fleet. What is there not to like? It is competition from other pastimes that restricts the numbers, local kids are more interested in football or playstation. Sailing is not on their radar. Our bigest membership growth is in returners and middle aged men who just stumble across us.
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Jeez. I ask an innocent question about communication and find myself in the middle of a s**t storm about big versus small clubs. Not quite what I expected but never mind
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It might not go down too well here but sometimes we might just be a little too conscious/concerned about elitism and inclusivity when the bigger issue is accessibility.  Those little clubs are often both geographically accessible and also 'approachably' so.  Certainly as a youngster starting Open sailing in a Grad in the late 80s the welcome in those little clubs was very accessible to me. 
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All very English and, well, Corinthian and that, but I can't help thinking we need to be a bit more (hate to say it a bit) Antipodean, or even, deep breath, American, about this and be more ruthless in the long term interests and competitiveness of our sport....so what if it's elitist or not all inclusive, what really is anyhow? I can't think of a single sport.  In the meantime this level playing field funding available to all stuff is just dragging out the death throes and needs knocking on the bonce, IMO
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Originally posted by Time Lord

Contrary to Peaky's experience, locally we find that we regularly gain members from a large club some 12-15 miles away as people find them very unfriendly, impersonal and rule happy.

We run two Open days each year (one on May bank holiday and the other late August/early September) and usually acquire 6-8 new members from each. As well as noticeboard posters in libraries and villages, roadside signs bring in most of the visitors.

Conversely we have been known to pick up members on your open days as they arrive at Draycote because of the signs you put at the top roundabout in Southam pointing them in our direction...
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I don't accept this, the RYA have run courses regionally and at the Dinghy Show spelling out where to go and what to do to get Inspired Facility and Small (£10k) grants.  There is also a network of RYA reps who will visit your club and talk you through the process, in our case they looked over the application forms after we had filled them out and advised on how to present our case better.  I don't know what grants may still be available, but two or three years ago when we went down this route we were not part of an inner circle, we just asked.

However, I have pointed out previously, there really needs to be a forum for Flag Officers and club managers to communicate with each other and learn from the others experiences ... Come on Y&Y grab this initiative!
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Originally posted by iiiitick


What you need lad is a chap like our Andy....ex county director of sport and leisure. He can get grants for everything. Cosmetic surgery, hair transplant, new outboard.....he's your man!


You are spot on iiiitick.

Unfortunately not every club has one, and the clubs that do, seem to get dispraportionate awards. In truth its no different to anything else in life, someone who knows the system will always use it to their advantage but it would be nice if those that have been successful could help out others who haven't.

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