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turnturtle ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 05 Dec 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2538 |
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It's because most of us grow out of kiss-chase eventually.... |
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ex laser ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 25 Mar 09 Online Status: Offline Posts: 725 |
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Pursuit races are just a more fun way of doing py handicap races in so many ways.
Everybody gets clean air at some time during the race. People always know where they are in the race at all times and at end of the race everybody knows where they are, no waiting around for someone to work out the handicaps. I have always sailed at clubs that have always sailed mostly pursuits and have always been surprised that more clubs don't use the pursuit format more often. Edited by ex laser - 05 Jan 15 at 12:23am |
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Neal_g ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Oct 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 323 |
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nope all routine stuff.
besides it'll be spring soon and it is only one race |
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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I'd have had you as well had you been there..
![]() Not sure I'd want to put myself through what those poor unmarried parented types had to put up with at Oxford, an hour is enough in this weather and even then at fifty minutes I started chucking myself in the bottom of the boat. Interesting two ship disasters on the news, then I hear you've taken on the role of coastguard recently, nothing you want to tell me? ![]() Edited by iGRF - 04 Jan 15 at 10:46pm |
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Neal_g ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Oct 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 323 |
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So iGRF we'll see you at queen mary next Saturday then after a good race today
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Miracle 4040 GP14 13407 Crewsaver phase 2 range now available to buy online on at http://www.gibsonsails.com |
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craiggo ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Apr 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1810 |
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Its not uncommon in a reasonable sized handicap start to get some form of bad air off of the start line, or alternatively one balls-up shortly ater the start due to the pressure can drop you back into the pack and into bad air.
Typically on a pursuit race at club level the number of competitors is so small that you inevitably get clear air for most of your race. So it suggests that you are cr*p at finding a good lane off the start and maintaining your concentration for the full length of the first leg ;) |
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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So a month has passed and a new year dawned and for one family or move or daughters of darkness reason or another today was the first time back, it's a new series and apparently it's customary to run the start of every series as a pursuit race.
Not something I've ever experienced before, it's enough down that lake to remember the mark rounding sequence and wether to take them port or starboard, trussed up in a death bag, temperature 1 degree, fumbling in gloves, not the sharpest of sails, yet despite starting last I think my 6 minute was after the Solos and the three minute was as the Laser departed, I ended up damn close to winning it, had I not had one of my classic senior moments falling into the bottom of the boat, then another issue with that stupid harness rig thing coming adrift and leaving me without the main sheet for a couple of wild gybes down wind when the cable tie securing it snapped, I could have won. So what is my point? The point is, how is it possible to make that ludicrous ground up coming from behind when imv it simply isn't feasible if we all start together. Now they were all out, Miracle, Europe, Solos, Streaker, Laser, the only boats missing were the 300 and the Rooster. I've been going over and over it in my head, I wasn't sailing exceptionally well, I got a couple of shifts and a couple of good mark rounding as I came through, but I've sailed much better in conventional races and not done as well, what is it about a pursuit that does this? Has anyone else had any similar experience? Maybe it's down to psychology once out front, not needing to push hard to keep making up time, i guess from years of not needing to worry about time if you are in the lead, maybe it's easier to catch up than gain ground, there is an element of that, it's easy to spot a boat in front making a shift error and indeed what the shifts definitely going to do before it reaches you, anyway it was an interesting experience, kind of gives the lie to the handicap being wrong though doesn't it? i may have to STFU in future. |
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blaze720 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Sep 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1635 |
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Good,
then broadly we are in agreement then? Come on there must be something new not involving PN's or 'centre-strap' singlehander stone throwing .. Mike L. Edited by blaze720 - 03 Dec 14 at 10:25am |
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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Good, then broadly we are in agreement then?
So, who has to be the new target for ironic abuse if not you? Where does the responsibility lie? |
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Simon Lovesey ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Nov 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 349 |
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But I have stated on several occasions that I think the method of handicapping new designs is wrong and there are better ways.
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