NoR v SIs

Originally posted by JimC Originally posted by Brass I have difficulty scoring a boat that broke a rule with a better score than a boat that did not break a rule. Isn't it vaguely analogous to case 45? ...because of a race committee error, but none of the boats racing gains or loses as a result, an appropriate and fair form of redress is to score all the boats in the order they crossed the finishing line.

Edited by Brass - 11 Dec 14 at 9:33am

I'm sure such things happen with a fair amount of regularity in club racing - we have a rule which says that if there is a difference betwen what is on the board and what is on the start hut, the start hut is correct. However, in reality it is usually the start hut that is wrong, with transposed ports and starboards for the mark boards (well, you are looking at them backwards!). At the point where we all reach a mark and half go one way and half the other (sometimes it isn't totally obvious which way it ought to be on an odd shaped lake), it is certainly the RO who gets the flack, not other competitors, and I'd find it very unfair if it was the competitors who suffered for the RO's mistake. I make it sound like it happens a lot - it doesn't really! We just have a very confused conversation and try and get it right the next lap.

Originally posted by Brass I have difficulty scoring a boat that broke a rule with a better score than a boat that did not break a rule.

Isn't it vaguely analogous to case 45?

...because of a race committee error, but none of the boats racing gains or loses as a result, an appropriate and fair form of redress is to score all the boats in the order they crossed the finishing line.

How aggreived would you be if you protested a boat, she was found to have broken rule 28 and still placed ahead of you?

It didn't make any difference to your elapsed time whichever side of the mark you passed.

I presumed at the time that the SI's would have taken precedence, but that anyone disqualified as a result could and should have asked for redress.

As for the outcome of the request, I think the interchange between Brass and Gordon shows it would have been in the lap of the gods (if that's not elevating our commenters too highly). Frankly though, anyone awarded n+1 etc would imho have been entitled to feel extremely pee'd off after a 26 mile dinghy race.

One lesson we might all learn is to treat any course detailed in the NOR as not worth the paper it is written on, and accept the necessity of headless-chicken mode on the morning of the race.