D-Zero

Originally posted by ds2 With the end of balancing the d-0 v aero nit picking. Would anyone liked comment on the videos winging its better half posted on Facebook of d-0s at grafham. In particular the one of the uncontrolled capsize to windward going down wind.

Hi ds2. The death roll phenomenon is common to any unstayed singlehander, and the combination of under sheeted main and dead downwind heading would have meant that the sailor in question would have capsized in any equivalent boat at that point - @ero; laser; finn;Europe; ok etc. He will probably admit that he would have swum several times at that point in his previous boat (300)
The boat was intentionally designed to be quite stable and forgiving which takes some people aback, possibly because it looks unusual.
I'd be happy to send out a beginner in one in most winds.
I have to admit that capsize isn't something that was high up my list when I designed it, but everybody seems to get on okay with that part too. You can get in over te back without kicking the doors
In if necessary. A big guy this weekend remarked that it was Far easier than his phantom, for wha that's worth. He initiated his capsize with a swan dive Into Grafham water, the nutter!

Originally posted by Null Originally posted by ds2 Originally posted by jeffers Originally posted by ds2 And the comments about the fact its so so easy to get into that in the end a sailor had to get in over the transom? I see we have a new troll to deal with. After this post nothing shall pass my keyboard. That was his decision but I can attest, from personal experience, that you can get in over the side of a D-Zero very easily when in the water after the boat has righted. So it's a legitimate question to ask about the aero, but not the zero?   Its a legitimate answer to ask in both threads.  Fortuantely in the Zero thread you will get responses from actual owners.  The aero guys have not posted here.  Other than Simon who has really only had a couple of demos....It is never going to be balanced is it?   Its all t*t for tat and frankly i am bored with it.

Originally posted by ds2 Originally posted by jeffers Originally posted by ds2 And the comments about the fact its so so easy to get into that in the end a sailor had to get in over the transom? I see we have a new troll to deal with. After this post nothing shall pass my keyboard. That was his decision but I can attest, from personal experience, that you can get in over the side of a D-Zero very easily when in the water after the boat has righted. So it's a legitimate question to ask about the aero, but not the zero?

To be fair, there was some capsize drills going on after the training on saturday, where everyone climbed back in over the side.  No idea why Graham climbed over the back to be honest.  I dont think it would be any easier.  Whilst we have an open transom we have a traveller in the way. Albeith its hardly an obstacle really.  One of the guys that came to Grafham for a demo was/is a Phantom sailor.  A big guy too he pulled himself over the side of the boat with the toestrap.  No problems whatsoever.  I think its on film some where, i will find out whats happening with the editing for you ds2, if you really want to see it?

Originally posted by ds2 Originally posted by jeffers Originally posted by ds2 And the comments about the fact its so so easy to get into that in the end a sailor had to get in over the transom? I see we have a new troll to deal with. After this post nothing shall pass my keyboard. That was his decision but I can attest, from personal experience, that you can get in over the side of a D-Zero very easily when in the water after the boat has righted. So it's a legitimate question to ask about the aero, but not the zero?