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    Posted: 27 Nov 14 at 10:56am
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Originally posted by jeffers

 To be fair the 200 and the 400 are doing pretty well and are probably the classes that RS sell a good number of new boats to each year 

According to the Classes review in the current Y&Y mag, RS sold the same number of RS100s as RS200s in the last year

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I think you will find that every dinghy built in the last 50 years has been a version of something that has gone before it. 

The 300 was more a int moth of the time for the people rather than a laser. 

 Just walk around the dinghy park, any dinghy park and you might want to thank RS for being in business with affordable designs that help keep the dinghy market going. I love merlins, but a new top of the range boat is for the rather well off dinghy sailor, whereas the 400 is available for a fraction of the price and offers great racing, not to say faster asymmetric sailing. if anything you could say it was like the iso,buzz,4000,5000 in fact all were simply trapeze or non trapeze versions of an I14 dummed down for the masses.

Yes I will have an aero soon, but I haven't owned an RS boat for years, didn't mean I saw them as the devil incarnate. They are a passionate group who believe in their product but have brought a sensible degree of professionalism to the grubby business of building small boats. 

It may be boring, but personally I have no issue with buying a boat from an organisation with back -up and support and a specification that rarely changes - its good for resale and easy for spares. Now I know plenty like to have a boat built by some bloke in a shed who drinks resin, in a class where the hull shape is redesigned every month and last weeks sail cut is well....just soooo last week.

Personally getting time afloat is always a challenge in modern life, so if I can by a boat from Suntouched/ RS/Cirrus/ Hartleys etc where I know it will be the same as the next one and where I can see some sort of a fleet it suits me fine.
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What is the D-one a version of?

Bu*****d if I can think of anyting its a development of
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Its a singlehanded ISO  
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Or indeed a direct copy of an RS Vareo  Wink
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Originally posted by SimonW99

Or indeed a direct copy of an RS Vareo  Wink

I think many would disagree there and with the ISO comment...... Wink
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Blimey, no one design versions of development classes... bye bye Firefly, Lark, Graduate, Tasar, all the assys, Laser (which used as a basis the lines of one of Kirby's 14s).

Virtually all 2 handers would be gone, with the influence of the 14 and N12 in the UK and the Aussie development classes way down south. Can we keep the Fireball? Might have to keep the French classes, though I suspect development class influence can be found there if you know the history.

The Merlin is also a gonner, of course, being simply a clinker built 14.

There really is some nonsense spouted on here.

Good on RS for having the willingness to stick their necks out and build boats that not only do people want, but can also afford. They have got where they are by hard work and good thinking, and if there have been less successful boats along the way, at least they are looking for areas to move into. And I've never owned an RS boat, so can hardly be described as a fanboy, just giving credit where it is due.
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Posts: 356 		Post Options Post Options   Quote Dougaldog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Nov 14 at 2:50pm
Now this is interesting! Back when I was still being allowed to write for the RS Magazine, I did a very careful analysis of the RS range and debunked that old chestnut of the simplistic overlay of 'new classes onto old' (for starters, the RS 200 is closer to an Enterprise than a National 12...but we'll move on). The bigger issue might well be the way the builder has built the support for the class and the long term commitment to those sailors who have invested in their boats. Equally, one could argue that the unseemly rush to get their product to the market may have seen boats launched before all the issues had been addressed (something that quickly got sorted in the later boats in the range). But let us be in no doubt that RS were a power for good and have reflected the rapid changes in the way the both society and the sport of dinghy sailing has developed.

Rupert - you had better start saving for a copy of the new MR book, then you'll not make statements like "the merlin is simply a clinker built 14".....

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