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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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Not sure there are many people around with the skills to "tune" a wooden mast these days - certainly not me - and possibly not too many who could successfully glue the 2 halves of a pre made one together. And not cheap, either.
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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> remain nameless?
Don't ask, very rocky ownership? Trouble with wood spars is that they get rather heavy by modern standards |
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Jack Sparrow ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Feb 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2965 |
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Someone who shall remain nameless from the UK Cherub fleet did than when competing in Mirrors in the 80's. It was a surprisingly light and stiff gaff (wooden ;-) ) section and measured perfectly.
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iiitick ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 04 Jun 14 Location: gb Online Status: Offline Posts: 478 |
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I was thinking.....masts are complicated technical things these days, engineered for bend characteristics, stiffness and all sorts of other stuff. What you need is a long thin blank that can be shaped and machined. So why not go back to wood? I have seen hollow wooden masts made by sticking two hollowed out halves together. You could rout a slot for the bolt rope and keep planing bits off to make it flex where you want it to. It could also have a section like a wing mast. At the end you could skin it in carbon for protection.
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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There are also a lot of 2ndhand boats around, so if cash poor, that is a cheaper route to ownership than a kit, especially as a mast and sails are so expensive these days.
You only build a kit boat because you want to do carpentry, not because you want to go sailing. |
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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Bell probably went to the wall because all they were offering was dross.
That Little Farr 3.7 is not exactly dross, nor is the Hadron although having studied some of the builds it is trying to stay within the class rules of the Ark. I wonder if a more modern self assembly pre pack could be constructed, it would remove the biggest cost factor, labour, maybe I shall consider this in my winter project.. |
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The Moo ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Jun 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 809 |
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When 3D printers in the home become the norm life will be so different
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zippyRN ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 437 |
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fundamentally
time poor, cash (or credit ) rich - you go out and buy one ready-to-sail
time rich , cash poor- depends if you have the skills, if you have the skills to make a boat measure to modern rules you are likely to want to have control over materials specification and fitting choice within the rules ( which would further pump up the ppirce of the thiese mythicla 'boat in a box packs) if you don't have the skills even with pre cut panels and simplified construction methods you'd still have issues making it measure and if the boat doesn't measure it's money flushed down the drain Bell went to the wall as they could not make money from the model being proposed , I dread to think what the courier/ delivery firms would charge ot deliver a 'boat in a box ' kit even with a multi piece mast ... it would be too heavy / large for the parcle boys which puts it into the realms of the commercial carriers who aren't set up for residential multi dropping ... where a set of plans can be sent by royal mail parcels / your choice of document courier / as computer files to the local large format printer / work CAD monkey ... |
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kneewrecker ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Apr 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1586 |
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is it not so dissimilar from finding a donor boat and taking a screwdriver to the mast foot and chainplate anchor points? There's plenty of very good Phantoms kicking around the <£3k price point these days (thank you D-One owners).... adding a wire would not make a sprightly little boat like a Farr, but it would certainly liven-up the experience if hiking your balls off doesn't quite appeal.
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iiitick ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 04 Jun 14 Location: gb Online Status: Offline Posts: 478 |
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I think you are all missing the point here.....
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