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    Posted: 17 Nov 14 at 9:33pm
I thought that is roughly how it can be supplied? It'll take far longer than a weekend to build, though, and take some basic woodworking skills - the end product is rather more complex than a wardrobe.
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I feel that Young Fuller is warming towards a Mirror, stitch and glue anyone?
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Originally posted by Jack Sparrow

Originally posted by iGRF

Why is it, just because we're light, everyone seems to think we have to have short length boats?

I seriously looked at that Farr, it should be right up my street, but 370? Really? I wouldn't look at a race board that short, even 380 is pushing it.

And that picture in Y&Y a 'new' boat for us to enjoy here in the 21st century, made of wood and looking like just about every other 1970's design, it really is 'back to the future' back here in good old 1985, even the Rooster Streaker looks more modern I'd sooner put a trap on that.

If you looked a little further, say on Butler Boats Facebook page, you might see that there is a composite mould being made iGRF.

Size has a relationship to weight as well as a relationship to being able to make one in your garage. But the biggest relationship that size has is to is FUN. Shorter boats are more lively and therefore more FUN to sail. The first two relationships also add to the FUN triangle as moving light boats around is more FUN and certainly building one yourself is a lot of FUN....

...So you see it isn't that light people (& kids) have to have short boats, it's just that light people ( &kids) like to have FUN.

I appreciate your point and your enthusiasm, but some of us lightweights find our 17' Canoes, 20' cats and our yachts to be just as much fun as our 7' windsurfers. Big smile
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Originally posted by iGRF

I usually get screws left over.

I'm serious, that Farr thing could be supplied as a box of bits, you'd get the plans, all the bits cut out, the ply necessary to build it all in a box the size of the biggest bit of ply, why not? Then there might have to be a separate box with the rig bits in it, two part mast obviously. Nice Instructional DvD on how to put it all together.

 oh  do keep up Grumpf , messers Holt, Bucknall and Bell were doing  that in the mid C20th  with the Mirror ...

mabe soneone  could remind us why Bell  went to the wall taking their  final kit boat design  with it (?flyer) ...
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Rupert Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Nov 14 at 7:38pm
The Flyer appears to have rather misunderstood what makes a skiff type boat tick, and with its failure (which was also predictable when you look at what people buying fast boats want, often - to get an adrinaline rush, not to spend weeks in a garage) so went the company.

I think Grumph is looking for something even more simple. Trouble is it also has to be waterproof and to sail well, things which an Ikea wardrobe doesn't have to do.

The Snark, sold in supermarkets in the USA in times gone by is probably the only sailing dinghy to have the accessibility GRF is looking for, and I don't think he would be impressed by the performance.
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Originally posted by zippyRN


Originally posted by iGRF

I usually get screws left over.

I'm serious, that Farr thing could be supplied as a box of bits, you'd get the plans, all the bits cut out, the ply necessary to build it all in a box the size of the biggest bit of ply, why not? Then there might have to be a separate box with the rig bits in it, two part mast obviously. Nice Instructional DvD on how to put it all together.

 oh  do keep up Grumpf , messers Holt, Bucknall and Bell were doing  that in the mid C20th  with the Mirror ...mabe soneone  could remind us why Bell  went to the wall taking their  final kit boat design  with it (?flyer) ...


Really? Show me the link where I can buy it then, all the bits I need ready to assemble in a box, with an instructional DvD. What about that single hander Merlin thing Vanquish or whatever it was called how is that supplied?
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That's it, Hadron, that should come in a box as well. With Pictures on the front.
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Can't see the box with the pictures but this is the result

http://www.littlejoesolutions.co.uk/hadron/

Comes out of iGRF's favourite class - the Merlin Rocket but cut down for Billy No Mates - otherwise known as singlehanders.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Rupert Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Nov 14 at 9:00am
The Mirror came with everything supplied, paint, glue, tape, instruction book. No DVD, as they hadn't been invented yet. There are still companies who do this, but not much for racing boats, as the market has shifted.
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