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kneewrecker ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Apr 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1586 |
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what guilt? making your sailing experience for any given day more fun and manageable by using the tools given to you buy the manufacturer? - as for series results, whatever... they appear fairly meaningless to the vast majority of club members who DNC 50%+ of the time.
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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We used to allow any boat swapping, so Contender one race, N12 the next if you so wanted, but don't any more, so the 3 different Aeros would/will count as 3 boats, with no choice of "just using the faster handicap" as some clubs appear to allow Lasers.
Quite agree that if doing a day series, it would be silly to choose the wrong size rig for the weather. |
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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686
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Medway Maniac ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2788 |
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What an extraordinary statement.
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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I can see where the idea of guilt comes from - if you have the choice of 3 boats, and no one else does, is the victory as sweet - do you not feel a little that maybe you'd not have won if you'd sailed the same boat you used for a longer series?
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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686
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Medway Maniac ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2788 |
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On that basis, everyone buying a new boat should feel guilty, as it will have an advantage over the older ones. Can people buy new sails without wearing sackcloth and ashes?
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Presuming Ed ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 26 Feb 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 641 |
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Depends on the wife/(husband)
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ChrisB14 ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 29 Oct 13 Location: London Online Status: Offline Posts: 101 |
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And the demo boats were vinylester, not epoxy as the production boats.
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B14 GBR 748 Bullet B
In build: Farr 3.7 GBR 410 (both sail number and the current number of loose parts) |
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ChrisB14 ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 29 Oct 13 Location: London Online Status: Offline Posts: 101 |
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I guess that will depend on what you want to get out of the boat. With my 95 kg the Aero 9 felt wonderfully alive. Very different from a standard rig laser. Once you get close to triple digit, there really aren't so many alternatives: Phantom, Halo and ? Chris
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B14 GBR 748 Bullet B
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Oli ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 23 Mar 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1020 |
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So none of you think, after as much debate about pys and that they're unfair etc etc, that if during a series a competitor switches rigs in a laser or aero that you've been competing with in a one design format it's isn't cheating? It's the same as switching boats! IF the series follows the sailor fair enough but if it doesn't then it's cheating. So yes guilt, maybe that's the problem then, I expect people to play by the rules when racing, and that includes sportsmanship and gamesmanship, especially important ina self governing sport. I can understand in a class where multi rigs are allowed under the one class like a 12 foot skiff but that's not what aero or laser etc are producing here.
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Oli ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 23 Mar 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1020 |
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Not at all, that's all part of the sport, would you complain that one footballer had new boots and you didn't? Of course not, but changing classes to suit the conditions to win is just wrong. Changing rigs to enjoy a sail and get a sailing is great, should be encouraged if anything but must be notified at race entry as a separate result.
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