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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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![]() Looks like something adjustable going on up at the forestay.. Anyway, I quite like the look of it, ticks a lot of my boxes as well with that retracting plate, and not to massive a sail and with a PY around 1080 it's in the ballpark with the Lasers I race against and not too far off Streaker, Solo's as to possibly be achievable if I get it right. Edited by iGRF - 16 Oct 14 at 12:26pm |
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jeffers ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3048 |
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I would beg to differ. My D-Zero (carbon rig) is not that much more to insure than my Laser was with the same company for the same level of cover.
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Blue One ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 09 Nov 13 Online Status: Offline Posts: 317 |
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It does not cost me anymore to insure my boat now it has a carbon mast than it did when it had a aluminium one. |
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kneewrecker ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Apr 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1586 |
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guys- both your boats haven't built up the same risk profile as others did with carbon masts around the same time the Solution would have taken that decision. Similarly the price point between a tin and carbon phantom stick was far broader too.
back in the day- my RS600 was over 300 quid to insure- purely because of the risk profile from carbon masts from broken Angell masts, and also Superspars weren't that reliable. It stands to reason, nearly a decade on, that carbon masts have improved longevity and with broader application on less extreme boats, prove not to be the great fear they once were from an underwriting POV. |
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jeffers ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3048 |
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Correct. Plus you can usually repair a carbon mast rather than have to replace it which is much cheaper.
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mangoman ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 09 Jul 09 Location: norfolk Online Status: Offline Posts: 69 |
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The forestay can be let off when going upwind in a breeze to allow the rig to rake and depower; very useful ! Lift the board a bit to keep everything nicely balanced.
There is an Aero at Hickling and so far I have always beat it over the water; I think he uses the 9 rig ? Dead downwind when it is light the Lasers are quicker as the Solution sail is restricted by the shrouds in how far forward it will go. Hope this answers some questions |
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tgruitt ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 02 Dec 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2479 |
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You are almost making insurance companies sound considerate! ![]() |
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Needs to sail more...
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PY estimate of 1040 for the aero 9 vs 1080 for the solution suggests one sailor is doing something well and the other isn't
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boatshed ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 12 Apr 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 457 |
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As I thought and this would be a major frustration for me. I think the absolute best una rig set up is a mast that is set well forward, no shrouds and a centre sheeting system. When sailing dead down wind in sub planing winds, the boom can be let right out square or beyond with the helm is far enough forward to trim the hull nose down but still behind the mast. This has a major advantage. It means, with the centre sheeting system, the helm can grab a mainsheet fall directly off the boom and yank it in 1 : 1 in the pesky puffs that threaten to flip you to windward when sailing deep by the lee. If the boat is designed with the mast too far aft, the helm will be sitting alongside the mast when running and the angle made by the mainsheet to the helms, makes it impossible to yank the boom in. You then have no choice other than using the deck block and all it's purchases which is too slow. Or sitting further back which drags the ass of the boat. Although I like the D Zero rear sheeting for upwind, I intensely dislike the having to pull arm fulls of mainsheet in through the deck block. It is just too slow. The boats that fit my likes are the OK, Finn, RS300 and probably the Aero but I've not seen one. |
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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Take a look at a Lightning too, Boatshed - that is their set up.
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