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    Posted: 29 Sep 14 at 3:28pm
Originally posted by maxibuddah

Why not Paul? Would it not give better running angles by letting the rig go forward? Would it allow you to depower the rig upwind like on a phantom?

It was (almost) always faster to sail a hotter angle than run downwind even on a small puddle like Hunts. Plus it kept me out of the way of the unstayed Lasers, Europes etc...
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Currently Blaze allows adjustable forestays but very few still fit or use them,  shroud adjustment on the water is not allowed.

The rig is VERY different to a Phantom - we have a (smaller) but taller and highter aspect sail/rig with a considerably shorter boom.  The technique down wind is very simple - if it is too light for 'dog-legging' which is faster in some conditons then you simply ease the kicker - the large roach is supported by the full length battens up top and 'rolls forward' - you don't need floppy rigging to allow th eboom further out for the rig to be very effective in this mode.  The Phant needs to ease the leeward shroud because the boom is so much more dominant being part of a more traditonal 'triangle' sailplan.  If the boom is restrained by the boom the sail is also restricted to a much higher extent than on the Blaze.

We also depower in a different manner.  Cunningham is used first to open up the upper leach and it blades off - if more wind still then add kicker etc.  Again slightly different to a Phant  (and we avoid 'boom in water' issue with heavily raked rigs - mostly due to reduced boom length btw)

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Thanks Mike- I deliberately left that as a straight up question, but from my POV, less tweaking, more sailing is better.  So all good news....

Edited by kneewrecker - 29 Sep 14 at 3:58pm
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Post Options Post Options   Quote maxibuddah Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Sep 14 at 4:33pm
Thanks Mike and Paul. I avoid the boom in the water issue by keeping the boat flat, but I know what you mean. I'm heavy enough to get away without doing masses of rig raking, I just get in it and sail. Keep the boat simple. Tried a finn once, nearly nice but I couldn't be bothered with the arsing around to get it all set up properly to go the speed you should do. That what galena when you are brought up in smods I guess
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Maxi / Paul

Simple is more often best in my view as well ....  anyway regards Phant/Blaze these things are usually not 'better' they are just different...  BTW I do think Maxi would really love a go with the Halo rig. (you know where to contact us etc Wink)

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Post Options Post Options   Quote winging it Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Sep 14 at 5:31pm
I will bring the d one to Burghfield sometime. It will be interesting to compare it with the Halo.
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D-one sails really well in single sail mode and I shouldn't think there is much weight difference between the boats.
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I've sailed it single sail round the cans, but the py stuffs it and it's just depressing not to be using the kite.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote blaze720 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Sep 14 at 11:15pm
Sounds like a bit of a challenge !   If you are serious we would welcome you along to Burghfield and the opportunity to see how it compares to a 'single sail' D1  (what has the PN got to do with it  after all ?).  

As for weight ... Is there a published weight for the D1 ?  Blaze/Halo with correctors is 72kg but the rig is much lighter than the D1's.  Sail area is about the same around 11.5m and width/leverage not so far apart. 

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Null Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Sep 14 at 11:47pm
Well I would expect the blaze to be faster. But not staggeringly,  not sure what it would prove anyway? Maybe a drag race against an rs300 would be a better comparison? 
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