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    Posted: 21 Sep 14 at 8:34pm
Hey all,
Hope you had a great Bart's Bash! Looking to re-rope my 600. What kind of rope would you recommend for the control lines? I need something that's not going to chafe and abrade easily. I've been looking at the Marlow Excel Pro but any advice needed.

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Excel pro is polyester core and wont make a good splice for your continuous lines.

Ideally you want English Braids / Marlow Continuous control / excel control. These have a dyneema or technora outer and therefore when you splice them you dont have any diameter change.

Aleternatively there are any number of poly cover / dyneema core lines about the can also be continuously spliced, however you will have to taper the outer to allow acess to splice the core. This will mean you do have a diameter change in your lines. Not a major issue, i tended to jut open both cleats between races and run the line round so that the splices were in the takeoffs instead of near the cleats or in a loaded position,

This is slightly less relevant if you dont have cont. lines, but the 600 ideally needs them! and if your re-roping now is the time to put them in..
If oyu want a control line setup diagram for the 600 give me a shout, as i made a somewhat crude one a while back.



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Get the Marlow excel control, it's the one where you splice the outer not inner together. Plenty strong enough and stretch is isn't an issue. My 600 and Musto have both been reroped with it
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Thanks a mil for that guys - that's very helpful indeed. The thing is, I've never spliced a line before. Is it something I can pick up from YouTube tutorials, or is it something you really only master with years of practice? My control lines are all a continuous set up. The kicker rope needs immediate attention. Do I need to do any splicing to replace that?
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You'll need some tools for it,a needle and a fid, but it's not that hard.  I picked it all up from the videos on the Rooster youtube channel.

I'd recommend the English besides braids offer the Marlow type. I find it easier to splice and it feels nice in the hand too.


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Have a look at www.dinghy-rope.co.uk for rope, 

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Post Options Post Options   Quote NHRC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Sep 14 at 8:02am
Aren't English braids and Marlow the same company making the exact same rope? English braids bought Marlow in 05 as far as i remember.
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No they are not. They are owned by the same person, but the two companies are run in direct competition.

The English braids control line is much more user friendly than the Marlow one, and being dyneema rather than technora stays softer. too. Excel control in my experience goes rock hard within 6 months.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Jamie600 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Mar 17 at 12:37pm
Apologies for resurrecting an old thread but this came up on a search when I was trying to find out what size fid to use for the English Braids rope.
 
A 4mm fid does not quite fit the 4mm rope, would I need a needle fid?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Neptune Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Mar 17 at 1:35pm
Think 4mm is smallest fid Jamie, you'll need either one of the long needle type or a wire loop type. I prefer the needle type for 3 &4 mm but then a wire for sizes like 2.5 down
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