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    Posted: 09 Sep 14 at 1:36pm
Originally posted by Blue One


Paul, Glad to know I won't be the first one to put a mark on it, if I get to have a go, at the end of the month. :) :)

Looking good at the moment for a go.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote haroosh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Sep 14 at 10:27am
Originally posted by kneewrecker

Originally posted by Rupert

I doubt those who have put orders in are, either.

Have you waited for a new boat to be built?  It's a painful roller-coaster experience... you get all excited about it, work yourself up in a frenzy enough to commit to the order and then sit back, waiting...  waiting.... waiting.... Praestolor was up there for the 'top boat names' list, well done Grumpf!

I waited 8 weeks for a Phantom, enough time for doubt to set in courtesy of the emerging RS300s who were getting the best of the summer sailing under their belts- as each week passed another one joined their ranks.... and there was me, on the side-lines, waiting, waiting, waiting.... determined not to buy another RS boat despite the great fleet that was building.  Eventually I backed down thanks to a 'big brother' style bit of advice from Inland Sea (cheers mate!), I then got shot of that barge and bought one of the best single handers ever produced.  I caught the tail end of great boom of great racing at Draycote- it's such a shame some of us dropped the ball chasing other dreams.  Hindsight's wonderful hey?

It was a longer wait still for the RS100 for those of us who knew about it before it was 'known about' (enough to buy and then give away a Laser to keep me on the water).  And look how that turned out- the novelty value of the kite soon expired and you're left with a sub 1000 PY boat without the grace and glide of the 300 in light winds, and without the righting moment of the MPS when its windy.  And don't even go there about the majority of its upwind sailing time... fun factor: nil.

My rock has been windsurfing- always filling the gap.  I've probably spent more time windsurfing 'between boats' than I have sailing the boats.  I guess that's why I did alright at the windsurf event last week- more time on the water without a rudder over the last 10 years than with   LOL.  

Looking further back, I had a few weeks waiting on a Vareo only for it to fall apart.  A few weeks waiting for a replacement Vareo, only for that to fall apart too.  Then I had to wait for the Musto Skiff- that was worth the wait though.  Loved that boat for what it was but life through a curve ball into my sailing, and no way that was going to work with a baby on the horizon.  A better sailor could probably ride the storm, but 6 weeks off the wire was enough for me to fall back down a steep learning curve.  

I had to wait an age for my Solo- trying to fit in around the build slots of the pro-resllers.  I didn't complain with that though, it did at least feel like a piece of custom, hand built work.  A sail craft fabricated by a true professional.  I bet that's how some of the Moth or IC customers feel- especially adding their little nuances to the build process.  You not only pay, but you wait for quality.  

Another life curve ball down the line more recently: if I could have bought one there and then, I'd still have a D-Zero and doubt I'd be selling it.  It took 20 seconds to place the deposit and decide to sell my Solo.  The boat looks so right, a test sail confirmed it later.  But since placing a deposit and the potential of taking delivery, we've sold our house and in the process of moving, any further significant expenditure is put on hold for the time being.    The windsurf board I'd ordered and received within 3 days is still in the garage, and there's no plans to sell it and release the equity in it.  The same could have been said for a D-Zero if I'd got hold of it at the point of deciding to buy it.  Frankly 5 grand won't make much of a dent in the mortgage, but it's enough not to take it on fresh now.  I'm not blaming anyone at Devoti or Suntouched- that's the way the dinghy industry works, but it does seem wholly out of sync with 21st Century consumerism.  I guess the one silver lining is you know Devoti are producing a quality product with great after sales, so once you get it it should be time on the water, not time fixing a shoddily released beta product.



Hey Jimbo - some of us still love our 100's and have huge Fun factor. The 'novelty' kite is the key to the machine down hill. Superb fun :-)
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it is great fun sailing downwind in them- so much so, it makes the upwind bit all the more painful and frustrating!  

There is actually only one significant pillar of disagreement about the RS100 between Fab100 and I- and that comes to small inland round the cans courses- for him and 3 others at Frensham it is worth the compromises and they love it, for me and 3 others at South Cerney was it wasn't and the kite, fun though it could be, was a major PITA and ruined the racing most of the time...  so the simple conclusion anyone can draw is as per Rich96's post - sail it and decide for yourself.  Neither Clive nor I are 'right' or 'wrong'- it's personal opinion at the end of the day!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote kneewrecker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Sep 14 at 10:02am
350 orders according to the latest (no hype) Press Release- that's pretty good going and shows there's definitely an appetite for this type of simple fuss-free sailing dinghy.  

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We got our Aero today.  Number 1047.  Apparently you cannot get a new one before February if you order today.  We ordered at the dinghy show "off plan" as it were and delivered six months later.  Have not yet put it on the scales to check, but lifted it with an 11 year old down the club to show his dad....

We were out sailing an hour after getting it to the club.  Thought it would be sooner but it seems that you get a boat and a kit and then have to put the last few bits together yourself!  However, the instructions were clear and it is not as if there are too many bits of rope to deal with.  Not like buying a N12!  Anyway all the bits were there, and we just have to put the sail numbers on to be legal tomorrow morning.

Mrs M is doing Bart's Bash in it tomorrow whilst the boys go N12 sailing.  Tomorrow will probably be a very good indicator of who sails what at a grass routes level in the UK.  Will be interesting to look at which classes had the most out.  Probably more interesting that a Nationals attendance table or anything like that.  I suspect the laser will still have most!
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Hi Jon
I think the juniors will beat any senior boats numbers so my money is on Opi or Topper.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote aeroNAUTIC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Sep 14 at 3:57pm
I'm looking forward to getting mine.  I did see the Devotti boat at the dinghy exhibition but the Aero just looks better and is lighter.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Rupert Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Sep 14 at 4:00pm
When is your due date, Aeronautic?

Sorry, that sounds like giving birth, doesn't it?!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote rich96 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Sep 14 at 5:37pm
Originally posted by aeroNAUTIC

I'm looking forward to getting mine.  I did see the Devotti boat at the dinghy exhibition but the Aero just looks better and is lighter.


Crumbs - I'd say the Zero looks better in every way - rig, hull etc

The Aero looks like a great 'cheap' 'beach boat' - probably a bit unkind. The Zero looks like all Devotis - quality.

Regardless of the pros and cons of the Dacron sail and high clew boom - it just looks wrong. Sorry.



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Hah!  My husband said the same, so maybe you are both right.  After all he clearly has better taste in women than I have in men.  Tongue

Rupert I'm 'expecting' before Christmas with any luck.  
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