D-Zero

Originally posted by Simon Lovesey [---] then guess at a handicap that is worst than the benchmark class so the new design doesn't whip everyone on its first outings.

And there you have it right there. The defining control system.

What a great incentive to designers to bring new products to market.

Make sure whatever you do, it's not going to beat our Fireball/Merlin/<insert other dross>

So the whole sorry, sad, pastime, I'm not even going to call it a sport, suffers the lack of image and goal seeking for the young, the image conscious, the ambitious. The market drivers, to ensure a solid supply of future products. Young man, if you get to be real good we'll let you win our event in some warmed over 50's cockle boat. Well that's just like F1 insisting on still using some 1920's Blower Bentley, oh but you can make some bits in carbon, we're good like that.

Don't make us anything new we don't want it.

For f**ks Sake.

Dozy, Old, Sad, Buffers...

There are not enough qualitative expletives to describe you people.

No wonder your premier series is sponsored by some lame direct sell insurance outfit, hey that's right up there in the image stakes, real formula 1 stuff - no thanks, not even at my age would my aspirations be set that low.

Does anybody even notice these days? Sailjuice? what's that? Antiquated boat racing, don't pay any attention nothing new there, just a bunch of eccentrics seeing how far they can twist some old rules to give each other prizes, they have a system but nobody is allowed to know or understand how it works, folk go there just to see each other really nobody expects anything from it.

Sponsors what do they get? Oh they sell insurance anyway so nobody gives a damn about them.

Insurance, how dull is that?

And you wonder why it's dying as an aspirational activity.

Edited by iGRF - 20 Sep 14 at 10:54am

However irritating I find GRF and as much bollyocks he talks it at least sparks discussion. The trouble is that most of that discussion is boring and pointless!

Post something interesting then!

The D zero is interesting.  At Hunts Jeffers is sailing off the PY recommended by its designer. 

Glad you recognise the outboard was duff, shame your mate didn't own up to it. 

Sailing isn't dying at my club, it's thriving, especially with the youngsters.  Perhaps that is something to do with the attitude of the committee driving it, who get on and do things rather than sitting on their backsides and whinging.


Edited by winging it - 20 Sep 14 at 11:14am

Well I think everyone is agreed that both the D Zero and the Aero are aspirational boats, modern excellent sailing characteristics some interesting features, nice rigs, full carbon, light all you could wish for.

Minor nit picky things that might sway folk one way or the other as with just about very other product in life, but all in all a good thing that pretty much everybody agrees on.

So what do 'they' do? The Bufferati, the luddites, the sad folk.

Handicap them off the face of existence.

If they had been left the way they were, there would be no discussion.