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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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Looks to me like an RYA publication pertaining to the sailing instructions for the Battle of the Classes, which I assume is an RYA organized event, not an RYA technical committee publication.
I'd imagine Simon Lovesey is somewhat busy at the boat show right now, but he would be the person to be able to answer any questions? Looking at the list, the absence of Solos surprised me. Still time, I guess. |
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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686
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jeffers ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3048 |
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Perhaps Simon or Brenda might care to comment on this? I know Simon lurks on this forum.
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jeffers ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3048 |
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And many thanks to those keen amateurs for taking this on to get the class up and running. I won;t embarass them by naming them
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kneewrecker ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Apr 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1586 |
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cheers- and agreed. edited- to deal with Jim's autocorrect!
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jeffers ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3048 |
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No different to the PYs that are publish for other large multi class events. I seem to recall the BM used to have it's own PY list prior to Great Lakes numbers beiing puglished. Also no different to a club tweaking PYs. My early experiences indicate that in some conditions 1044 is generous but I have hardly sailed across a range of conditions as yet and have been told that I can stick with the current number I am using until the next 'official' PY list gets published.
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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I'm going to investigate the possibility of a restrictive practises action against the RYA.
In the meanwhile I've cancelled my D Zero order, I've been away a few days and missed all this, only this afternoon Rodney rang to say it's ready as I was driving back from the Southampton show. I ordered the boat in good faith on the fair assumption with similar stats but a way smaller rig than the EPS I'd get a slower handicap with which to take on the Streakers and Solo's down the lake, 1010 isn't going to cut that. So it's a pretty simple decision really, bloody shame, it's an otherwise excellent boat. Personally I'd have refused to accept that and withdrawn, but then all the time manufacturers let this obvious corruption continue, then as customers what choice do we have? |
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Null ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 May 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 745 |
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Graeme, cancelling orders is kind of succumbing to the 'bullsh*t' is it not? Its a bit early to jump to conclusions on PY. We don't even know where exactly or who exactly wrote that list.
What stinks is one class has been nailed the other has not. Just so happens the has not class is sponsoring the prize!
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branchingfactor ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 04 Dec 13 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2 |
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The PY number will sort itself out over time, based on actual boat performance in real-world conditions. So why cancel your order based on (what you believe to be) a low initial PY handicap?
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rich96 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 20 Jan 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 596 |
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Why oh why oh why don't you/we just buy and sail the boats you/we enjoy and don't get worked up about mickey mouse handicaps ?
Even the big handicap event are pretty much a lottery (wind, course and water conditions dependent) so why would any club sailors give a toss about handicaps ? Getting worked up about these two boats relative handicaps is a joke - its way way too early. FWIW - one looks like a serious race boat and the other looks like a possible Laser replacement (3 rigs and very simple) - their relative handicaps is irrelevant and they will probably both do well. If the sole purpose of buying a %k boat is to beat Streakers and Solos on handicap seems rather sad ? Picking a boat for its handicap (or cancelling an order) is ludicrous. |
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