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2547 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1151 |
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I always struggle with the the assertion that the Sunfish is so numerous ... I consider myself well travelled and I have only ever seen a few battered examples in the Caribbean and USA. |
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Chris 249 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 May 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2041 |
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ISAF says that there are some 20 Sunfish in the Commonwealth countries; in comparison there are 1600 current members of the UK Laser association alone. ISAF info indicates that the Commonwealth has more countries with Laser associations than it has individual Sunfish racing. Even if a bunch of Sunfish were missed out of the ISAF figures the trend is still pretty clear. |
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More Sunfish than lasers in the commonwealth countries?
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the same, but different...
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winging it ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 Mar 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3958 |
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the same, but different...
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Do Different ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 26 Jan 12 Location: North Online Status: Offline Posts: 1312 |
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"It's scary to see how few classes are really widespread. The fact that our few widespread classes are so often attacked is even more scary given their rarity. No wonder the sport has some problems when its players can't agree on international rules most of the time." Well yes. To my mind sailing shouldn't or cannot really be considered as an Olympic sport at all. Of course the top people have great fitness, skill and intellect. There is just too much equipment involved in the equation to really be able to clearly see the mantra of "higher, faster, stronger". I think sailing has closer parallels with motor racing than anything else. Think of the costs from Clubman Bangers to F1 probably not much different and regarding fitness, half tidy people with top skills can get pretty close to bothering the elite group. ???
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Chris 249 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 May 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2041 |
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The Australian-designed Viper F16, second in the most recent ISAF trials IIRC, would be a major candidate for the cat slot.
The Moth doesn't quite qualify, strictly speaking, as it was invented in the USA as well as Australia, and without the spread from the US branch and US/Swiss/French design input, it would not be what it is today. IMHO offshore yachts, probably the most popular type afloat, should be represented and a course from coastal town to coastal town could allow the inclusion of many areas that would not be part of the Games. I'd agree with Jim that the Olympic classes should be allowed, giving us; Mens S/H- Laser - currently sailed in most CW countries where the sport exists and vastly more than any other class bar the Opti? (if no Olympic classes are allowed, substitute Contender, currently sailed UK, Oz, Can + Scot?) Womens S/H - Radial (or "Contender Radial?") Mens 2H - 'Ball - currently sailed UK, Oz, Canada, South Africa, Scot(?), Kenya (?), Northern Irel (?) Zim (?) formerly sailed NZ; or 505 (Uk, Oz, SA, Can, Zim (?) Scot (?) NI (?)) Womens 2H - 'Ball Mixed Skiff - 49er/FX - currently sailed UK, Oz, NZ, SA, Scot(?), Cat - Viper or Tornado - Viper currently sailed Oz, Sing (?), Uk(?); Tornado Uk, Oz, ?? Keelboat - Flying 15, currently sailed UK, Oz, NZ, SA, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Zim? Windsurfer - sadly, none of the classes are CW designed. Offshore yacht - Farr/Mumm 30, currently sailed UK, Oz, NZ, Can a bit IIRC. Otherwise whatever is strong in the host country ie Sigma 33, Farr 1020. Team Racing - Ent (Uk, Sri Lanka, SA, India, Scot, NI,) or Tasar (Uk, Oz, Canada, Scot(?)). It's scary to see how few classes are really widespread. The fact that our few widespread classes are so often attacked is even more scary given their rarity. No wonder the sport has some problems when its players can't agree on international rules most of the time. PS apologies to the Welsh and others for not including them! |
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maxibuddah ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Mar 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1760 |
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Now that's what you call a spinnaker, none of those so called massive 5o ones
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Everything I say is my opinion, honest
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winging it ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 Mar 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3958 |
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Here's your cat class, from Polynesia
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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Now we're talking! Getting them to Glasgow might cause a few logistical problems, mind.
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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686
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