Unknown Rudder - maybe Contender?

   Please can I ask for some assistance from the collective wisdom here present in identifying the right boat for a milanes rudder.  Belongs (for reasons lost in history) to a non-sailing person and I've offered to help find a good home.
The CV stock says 8160, which according to the CV website is a Contender….does this look like the right shape?

Tiller has a kink in it that appears deliberate, to raise the end a few inches.

Thanks!

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MainlySwimming Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Groupie Joined: 28 Nov 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 65	Post Options Post Reply Quote MainlySwimming Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Unknown Rudder - maybe Contender? Posted: 08 Jun 14 at 1:33pm
	Please can I ask for some assistance from the collective wisdom here present in identifying the right boat for a milanes rudder. Belongs (for reasons lost in history) to a non-sailing person and I've offered to help find a good home. The CV stock says 8160, which according to the CV website is a Contender….does this look like the right shape? Tiller has a kink in it that appears deliberate, to raise the end a few inches. Thanks!

Time Lord Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 03 Dec 13 Location: Warwickshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 301	Post Options Post Reply Quote Time Lord Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 08 Jun 14 at 5:27pm
	Could be a fit on a number of dinghies - i had a similar rudder on a merlin rocket - an NSM design from the 1980s. It would help to know the overall length of the rudder blade and the distance between the bearing surfaces of the rudder fittings.
	Merlin Rocket 3609

Paramedic Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 27 Jan 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 929	Post Options Post Reply Quote Paramedic Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 08 Jun 14 at 8:47pm
	looks like a fairly standard milanes older merlin/phantom blade to me.

E.J. Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Posting king Joined: 19 Feb 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 184	Post Options Post Reply Quote E.J. Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Jun 14 at 10:10pm
	The blade is out of class for a contender, and usually the contender stock is not kinked so on first look I'd say not a contender rudder.

Paramedic Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 27 Jan 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 929	Post Options Post Reply Quote Paramedic Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 10 Jun 14 at 8:24am
	Id suggest given the tiller kink that it almost certainly started life on a 70's or early 80's Merlin with a low transom but high side decks at the rear end. It's certainly not the original rudder for the boat if indeed it did come off one of these! M&W made two CV stocks, one high transom one low. This will be a low transom stock, and will suit Lark, Fireball, Merlin, Phantom etc etc though the blade will be out of class for some of those. The high stock was for the GP14/Enterprise and while outwardly similar is a very different size and would never have carried a blade that looked like that! There was never to my knowledge a stock specifically for the contender, though the low one would suit. hope this helps :) Edited by Paramedic - 10 Jun 14 at 8:25am

Teamvmg Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Groupie Joined: 26 Feb 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 99	Post Options Post Reply Quote Teamvmg Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 10 Jun 14 at 8:30am
	I'll pass on the rudder......................but that pot is a ming!

getafix Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 28 Mar 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2143	Post Options Post Reply Quote getafix Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 10 Jun 14 at 9:29pm
	something where the helm shoves the tiller between legs to hoist, I'd reckon, probably a tall fella given the kink in the tiller....

iiitick Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 04 Jun 14 Location: gb Online Status: Offline Posts: 478	Post Options Post Reply Quote iiitick Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 10 Jun 14 at 10:40pm
	My 'Smokers Satisfaction' Merlin had one just like that.

MainlySwimming Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Groupie Joined: 28 Nov 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 65	Post Options Post Reply Quote MainlySwimming Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 13 Jun 14 at 9:30am
	Thanks everyone….it's in amazing condition for something that seems 20+ years old. Will get the measurements and then try and find a good home!