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iitick 
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 Topic: modified one designsPosted: 31 May 14 at 6:10pm |
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I just got a tiny bit of trouble for nicking a frustrated 14 year old off training in a collapsing Topper and sending him out in my Lightning. He had a great time like a young boy should but missed some (in my opinion) rather pointless instruction. There were a few grumbles but it accelerated his enthusiasim no end........what does that make me?
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Medway Maniac
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Posted: 31 May 14 at 6:34pm |
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A poacher. The Lightning Class will be grateful. The kid is also likely grateful for the opportunity to broaden his horizons. Sailing is, after all, first and foremost about messing about in boats.
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Chris 249
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I don't understand your point, to be frank. My point was that road and track cycling are sporting disciplines that have a culture that is (in my experience) at least as rules-oriented as dinghy sailing in many ways, therefore they are evidence that sailing is not unusually rules-bound. Sure, MTB etc has a different culture - that's why I quite specifically mentioned several times that I was referring to track and road. The fact that both road and mtb are extremely popular sports despite having different approaches to many things just shows (IMHO) that there's no real right or wrong way to approach these things; as long as the culture suits the sport (which is a complex issue) then a wide variety of cultures can work. Vive le difference! EDIT - And to get it back on track, IMHO "vive le difference" applies to clubs and their approaches to modifying ODs. In some clubs the ethos, manpower, race structure etc makes it problematic, in other clubs where these factors are different it's fine. The sporting disciplines that I have done go from ones as "hidebound" as SMOD racing and road biking and as (supposedly) loose and chilled as freestyle windsurfing and MTBing. Each approach seems to have its pluses and minuses and the important thing seems to be to choose the approach that matches the needs of the individual sport or discipline, rather than seeing any one approach as overly strict and another as the preferable model. Edited by Chris 249 - 01 Jun 14 at 7:18am |
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Null
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Posted: 01 Jun 14 at 6:41pm |
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Can't even be bothered to read that let alone post a response
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Medway Maniac
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Posted: 01 Jun 14 at 7:31pm |
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Yeah, best stick to Twitter then, eh?
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Null
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Posted: 01 Jun 14 at 8:23pm |
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????? Attempt at a funny?......
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Null
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Posted: 01 Jun 14 at 8:31pm |
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Read it now, you specifically said road and track cycling which is fair enough, but if we are being specific I guess we could generalise specific classes. That's the point I'm trying to make. Comparing windsurfing to mtb I guess you can see a comparison but within mtb riding there are very different disciplines such as xc racing. Again governed I believe by the uci albeit with a much more relaxed rules set then road riding. It's also very difficult to compare the sports, given that the majority of road cyclists in the uk consider a sportive as a race and most ride for recreation, dinghy sailing in the uk on the other hand I would suggest (could be proved wrong) the majority seem to club sail. Now I'm not agreeing that dinghy sailing is or isn't a bossy sport, I think we all know when we take the sport up that we race under a rule set. But I think comparisons to other sports (especially very niche parts of the sport) don't hold up well in comparison.
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winging it
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Posted: 01 Jun 14 at 9:02pm |
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The other thing is, 'bossiness', whatever that means will vary hugely from club to club and class to class.
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the same, but different...
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Null
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Posted: 01 Jun 14 at 9:08pm |
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Agreed Nessa, I am not sure its a bossy sport at all? Its certainly not the right term to use.
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Rupert
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Posted: 01 Jun 14 at 9:54pm |
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Go away for a week, and one of our favorite winter topics arrives in the summer!
Have read 1st and last pages, would guess the midle ones are similar. Once you have bought boat, do what you like to it. Just don't expect to sail off the handicap you started with. It might be that you have to do 10, 20 races at the club before they are willing to give you a yardstick which won't be changed for a while. Yet to race my Lnisail, but wouldn't expect to be set a firm number till I'd done enough to show true speed. |
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