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    Posted: 29 May 14 at 5:36pm
Sounds like an OK solution to me, assuming someone can tell me how to program Sailwave to output where someone (or indeed, someone and his like-minded mates) would have finished without me having to score, 'publish' then print the race and series twice, once including him/them and once without.  As a one-off I'd be happy to do the double publish twice, but every race, for an unspecified number of people, yuk.  

I and my co-results-man overlook enough stuff in Sailwave as it is without extra.  Think I'm useless?  Just try setting up a series, entering all the boat and crew data, remembering to change the discard profile, the title, the races to show, making a backup to take home, etc. etc.  argh.  

I'm currently sidelined from sailing, so thought I'd educate and encourage RO's to use Sailwave themselves by working with it in the race box as they run the racing.  Thought it would be doddle, but so far, they've all deemed it far too complicated and easy to get wrong.  Using the 'real time finishes' was looking very slick until three boats approached the finish in line-abreast; thank goodness for the paper backup!
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Don't know if its already been mentioned here, but you might find the resale value takes a bit of a hit if you make any sort of permanent modification. If you cut the corners off the aft deck of a Laser, for example, you might struggle to get any buyer interest. Would you even be able - morally - to advertise it as a laser? I guess all this might be a key reason why most people wouldn't consider doing so.
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I have fiddled with my Lightning quite a bit but mostly just copying factory updates. I have a round boom for instance because it is less cranially damaging than the the old square girder. My boom is an old Mirror mast. I am also planing a cascade kicker and even cutting 'scoops' out of the cockpit sides like the John Claridge boats to make hiking easier (not that I ever hike!).

It does no harm, the boat is broadly class legal and no one complains. Mind you my sailing gets no better so I need all the help I can get.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote winging it Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 May 14 at 7:06pm
Originally posted by SimonW99

Heres a good mod.

Get 10 d-ones together, remove the spinnaker, pole, chute and lines.

Agree a PY of say 1000 ish

Voila a carbon super comfortable, fast, super easy to sail winged wonder class  Big smile Big smile Big smile





Noooooooo!  I love the kite!
the same, but different...

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Originally posted by Telltale

One of the things I have just realised about sailing is that it is a "very bossy sport".


I'm intrigued. What comparable competitive sports are much less "bossy"?
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not every one wants to be class champion, but they still might enjoy pitting themselves against their mates on sunday - there's different levels of competitiveness but the same bossyness seems to apply...
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Tried intersport comparison before and it is difficult, but if I go to a mountain bike event I have to display a number.

If I go to a sailing event I have to display a number, but if it is 6 inches (150mm) out of position I get protested or even disqualified. I accept it, as I signed up to it, but is it necessary?

 The problem is each club is different but there does seem to be a type that revels in the pedantic and for whom the need to control is enhanced by the sailing setup.

I am not talking about travelling events, club regattas, it’s the Sunday club racing, eg blowing a hooley, I go racing, 3 out of 15 boats go out, I use a small sail, in preference to reefing to the same size. To be told while pulling the boat up the ramp wet and exhausted but ecstatically happy that my result doesn’t count because I am out of class.

I am old enough to savour the good bits of that experience.

 I also accept it might be me! 

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A good sailing committee would not interfere too much like that until a significant part of the membership complains. Trouble is, people do complain!
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Dinghy Sailors and their clubs have always been a bossy bunch, hence I could never have put up with them all the time the stuff running through my veins was bright red and vibrant. Now, the passage of years the dilution of alcohol and other of lifes blood thinners, means I can walk away, roll my eyes, say nothing have a moan on the internet or just plain simmer at some of the terrible inequities that still go on at the hands of sailing officialdom. Will they ever realise it's part and parcel of what marginalises the sport? Maybe when there's just a few left, who knows.

For my part I try and keep our club as light hearted as possible and as I said to another new crew guy who stood in for Trev last night, we'd won over the water and by a bit of a margin which was new to him, but as they told him the Laser had won again, he was so totally perplexed (he runs a school for racing drivers as Brands Hatch). 'Barry did you enjoy the race?' 'Yes' he said, 'well that's all there is too it, don't do it for results gauged by this lot, all those admiring women on the beach saw was you stepping out of the winning boat with the big red spinnaker, and that doddery old git in the beach toy who came in half an hour later? Or those old boys in their old cockleshell boat? Nobody even notices them...

When faced with BS you just have to do the British thing and laugh it off, (or you could in the case of the bloke giving you grief after a windy race pulling the boat up the slip), stop and punch his lights out

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Originally posted by Telltale

If I go to a sailing event I have to display a number, but if it is 6 inches (150mm) out of position I get protested or even disqualified. I accept it, as I signed up to it, but is it necessary?


Really; at club level ... never at any club I have been a member of.

I have seen people getting sniffy about number placement at worlds but then rightly so ... and guess what the people getting indignant about it are those who have crushed all their numbers up against the leach in the hope that may save them getting spotted OCS ... the rules do have a purpose.

However, they should be applied in the context of the event ... local clubs sailing you should run a bit loose on these matters ...



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