The RS100 Owners Thread

   for those interested but put off by the original price, you can now pick up an early boat for less than 4 grand!!!
http://sailingdinghies.apolloduck.co.uk/display.phtml?aid=332837

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kneewrecker Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 09 Apr 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1586	Post Options Post Reply Quote kneewrecker Report Post Quote Reply Topic: The RS100 Owners Thread Posted: 28 Apr 14 at 3:42pm
	for those interested but put off by the original price, you can now pick up an early boat for less than 4 grand!!! http://sailingdinghies.apolloduck.co.uk/display.phtml?aid=332837

Ruscoe Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 12 Jan 10 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1514	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ruscoe Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 28 Apr 14 at 3:57pm
	Goodness me, that's basically RS300 money!


kneewrecker Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 09 Apr 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1586	Post Options Post Reply Quote kneewrecker Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 28 Apr 14 at 4:12pm
	no chance mate, a similar age RS300 would ask for more... http://sailingdinghies.apolloduck.co.uk/display.phtml?aid=332970 http://sailingdinghies.apolloduck.co.uk/display.phtml?aid=329958

MB226 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 13 Apr 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 28	Post Options Post Reply Quote MB226 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 28 Apr 14 at 4:18pm
	Ha, that's my old 300, sold around 7 years ago for £2900 !

kneewrecker Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 09 Apr 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1586	Post Options Post Reply Quote kneewrecker Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 28 Apr 14 at 4:35pm
	it does seem a little steep, I had 480 and sold it for less than that some time ago now- but to be fair, it also looks like a great boat that one, and the 300 class fielded the strongest numbers at the Sprints, so clearly not in the dire straits that one could imagine from its recent change in status. Edited by kneewrecker - 28 Apr 14 at 4:36pm

Kev M Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 05 Dec 11 Location: Landlocked Online Status: Offline Posts: 346	Post Options Post Reply Quote Kev M Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 02 Jun 14 at 9:13pm
	Could the RS100 be the used boat bargain of the year? As James pointed out, you can pick up a four year old boat for 4k, not good for the previous owner but that's great value for a second hand buyer surely? 4k would barely get you a 10 year old phantom or a similarly aged 300 if you were ever likely to find one. If you're not bothered about class racing because you can't afford the time to travel and "class racing" at home is nothing more than extracting your results from a handicap fleet then it looks like a lot of boat for the money to me. Two questions though: Why does it seem to have a reputation as a monster upwind when the big sail is similar in size to a phantom and the boat has a similar beam yet the phantom is perfectly manageable upwind. Why does the 8.4 seem to get the bigger turn out at events? Is it really a boat for lightweights that can't manage the big sail or is there a real performance advantange to it that offsets the reduced sail area? If so, what's the upper weight limit for the small sail?
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rb_stretch Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 23 Aug 10 Online Status: Offline Posts: 742	Post Options Post Reply Quote rb_stretch Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 02 Jun 14 at 9:29pm
	The Phantom has 20cm less beam than a RS100 and the real sail area is 11 sq metres, so if 10.2 is also real there is no reason at all why the RS100 should be harder upwind.

Null Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 11 May 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 745	Post Options Post Reply Quote Null Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 02 Jun 14 at 9:50pm
	I agree, but you can do some pretty wonderful things with a stayed rig on a phantom. Which certainly help tame the beast. Not sure about the 100

Rupert Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rupert Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 03 Jun 14 at 8:46am
	If you watch a big rig Laser going upwind when overpowered, you can see it sliding sideways in the gusts as wind is spilled, whereas the Radial is powered up more of the time and climbs higher. In the Laser, the extra upwind sail area is worth hanging onto for getting back down wind again. In the 100, you can bung up an extra sail, so there isn't the need for the bigger sail upwind. I'm sure if the boat was unarigged, the big sail would be the dominant one.
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kneewrecker Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 09 Apr 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1586	Post Options Post Reply Quote kneewrecker Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 03 Jun 14 at 8:57am
	The 8.4 was always the more popular- in the UK at least, a rule change has ensured it has stayed that way. And FWIW, I think it's a far nicer boat to sail with the 8.4 up than the 10.2, but you do suffer a bit in RTC racing when you can't get the kite up if you're a little porky. I think on reflection, the boat would have been much better off being launched with just one rig in the first place, but hey, 20:20 hindsight n' all that. It's just an opinion of course, and it's not like RS can possibly share that view, after all, they are repeating the process again with the Aero. Edited by kneewrecker - 03 Jun 14 at 8:58am