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    Posted: 19 Mar 14 at 9:42am
James, as i understand it the chap in the clip is more than a little handy in a boat!!!    As mentioned earlier, but of armchair sailing from me, which was probably a little unfair as the boat still has some rig refinement as i understand it.  Even so it looked pretty damn sweet.  I love the way it glides as well, it just looks so damn efficient almost effortless.

FWIW i also agree about the speedpuc, go pro, whatever it is mount thing on the Aero. Great for the first few weeks of owning a go-pro/speed puc.  But if your anything like me you soon get sick of Go pro videos (actually  literally sick)  you also soon understand that none of your friends..Sailors or non-sailors are interested. (Hey maybe thats just me so appreciate that a company like RS will of done the market research and it must be 'Wanted') ot only that but what happens when the technology becomes obsolete?  Can you change brackets for the latest bit of kit?  Garmin now make a universal qr twist bracket for their cycling GPS so its all inter changeable.  Are dinghy suppliers there yet???

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personally I'm fond of the less is more approach on this boat, so I'm pleased that the controls aren't led back and complicated with continuous systems and fairleads etc.  

One of the small (and relatively insignificant) points of difference between this boat and the Aero was the 'cleanliness' of the layout - no go pro mounts, no GPS / tactick panels etc. So it seems in keeping with the design ethos to maintain simple controls just behind the mast. 

Anyway- I like that clip Rodney posted, it shows to me that everything that looked right about the Punk sailing at the FOM seems to have been transcribed into the prototype.  Glide... Glide... Glide.... it's the one attribute that my Phantom had that was stunning.    

It's answered the only pre-sale doubt I had, that being that Holman could sail a tin bath with a linen table cloth and still make it look good.  I don't know the chap in the clip or how well he sails etc, but he looks like he's doing okay to me. It gives me hope.

Next step - test sailing and demos..... Big smile  


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Originally posted by sandgrounder

Thankfully not been on this thread for a while due to extended holiday and general apathy. Gotta love some D-Zero experts who haven't bothered to have a sail of the prototype / production boat yet dare to highlight the "faults" of the design right here. I guess there's one in every sailing club, always has been. Surprised that Dan even bothers to respond, I'm dying of boredom.....

Bizarre comment, have you been reading this or another thread. Comments have been universally positive as far as I can see. Comments about a split tail to go out to the cleats is hardly negative, just makes getting a quick purchase a bit easier.
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It always amazes me the antediluvian control features still prevalent on boats in the 21st century, you'd think by now they'd be push button operated and from a central console, in fact there should be an app on your phone. All that pulling bits of string, breaking nails, getting rope wrapped around your legs, the one thing the Punk had that improved the situation they seem to be doing away with because it's felt you girls couldn't handle the extra friction.

A good boat ruined for limp wrists and lard boys I reckon..
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Ruscoe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Mar 14 at 8:45am
Originally posted by Rupert

I have central cleats on the Lightning. Most of the time they are fine, sometimes they are awkward. Same can be said for cleats on the side deck.

I agree Rupert.  But my favourite set up for ease of use is the Phantom (like Gordon just said) the cleats are all mounted behind the mast, you also pull the rope primary line from about a metre behind the cleat so the angle is less critical (looks similar to the Zero) Whilst i had always thought side deck cleats to be superior, i just don't think they are.  I often find i am sat on them, or if not too close to get a good mechanical advantage, in classes where continuous lines are either outlawed or you are not able to splice the lines together you find you run out of control line, or even worse the other side is not cleated in.  The more and more i think about it the more i believe in the KISS theory.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Ruscoe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Mar 14 at 8:40am
Originally posted by sandgrounder

Thankfully not been on this thread for a while due to extended holiday and general apathy. Gotta love some D-Zero experts who haven't bothered to have a sail of the prototype / production boat yet dare to highlight the "faults" of the design right here. I guess there's one in every sailing club, always has been. Surprised that Dan even bothers to respond, I'm dying of boredom.....

Not seen much of this, name and shame please....

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Hi Dan
Most Phantoms seem to have them like your behind the mast and we have free layout. I certainly find mine easy enough with the tails led back.
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I have central cleats on the Lightning. Most of the time they are fine, sometimes they are awkward. Same can be said for cleats on the side deck.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sandgrounder Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Mar 14 at 7:52am
Thankfully not been on this thread for a while due to extended holiday and general apathy. Gotta love some D-Zero experts who haven't bothered to have a sail of the prototype / production boat yet dare to highlight the "faults" of the design right here. I guess there's one in every sailing club, always has been. Surprised that Dan even bothers to respond, I'm dying of boredom.....
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Daniel Holman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Mar 14 at 11:00pm
Yep this boat is far far less kicker intensive than the laser. Plenty of cunno will help in breeze though, but not in anything above 7kts! The vang camcleat is the centre cleat and is a great improvement over the swivelblock with cleat on the proto.

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