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    Posted: 13 Feb 14 at 12:22pm
Looks nice and as if it'll be pretty quick, certainly in those conditions. Looks to be a semi battened Mylar sail so should be quite progressive and point well.
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For the month of April 2013 I was fortunate to have sole use of the D-Zero prototype "Punk". I consider myself to be an average club sailor and am in my mid-50s. I primarily sailed the boat at Grafham Water during this period, and have also sailed her on open water in decent waves, and in estuaries and rivers, in winds ranging from 5kts to gusting 30kts.
 
The prototype boat was a delight to sail in all the conditions I encountered. Light on the helm with low sheeting loads, the boat is very responsive, sails very accurately upwind with electric downwind acceleration and performance, very well behaved on all points of sailing with no bad habits.
 
 
I look forward to seeing how Devoti Sailing have commercialised the "Punk", and going for a sail in the production boat.
 


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Originally posted by Blue One

Originally posted by The Moo

Originally posted by Blue One


Originally posted by yellowwelly

out of curiosity, what would it need to do to make you want to change from the lightning/moth/laser... or what are you hoping for from the RS-0 to be significantly different?

Simple, I want laser like sailing experience but with a better, more controllable rig.


Didn't your Supernova fulfil that requirement?

No. You should know, you have seen me sail it.
 The m7 mast is far to stiff for a light weight like me, even the fat boys in the British moth fleet wouldn't use one. My ideal boat has to have the speed of a laser, crossed with the rig control a have with the moth or the lightning."




Not sure I understand that with the Supernova. It offers a much greater ability to depower than virtually anything I have sailed before. One of the frequent champions has won Nationals in big winds and is under 75kg so unless you are superfly would have thought it wouldn't be an issue.  

With the cunningham full on and the forestay dropped back I can sail it flat and unfeathered up to 18 knots and yet still can be fully powered at 8 knots. Mast is reasonably stiff I 'd agree, but the controls more than compensate. It gives me a greater control range than my Laser with two sails. 

I realise that thin flexi carbon masts are a simpler and increasingly cheap way of extending the broadness of the power range, but I have yet to sail one that matches the range that can be generated by a good traveller (d-one, megabyte) , or adjustable forestay ( Supernova, Phantom, etc ) when combined with a decent cunningham set up.








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Originally posted by SimonW99

Originally posted by Blue One

Originally posted by The Moo

Originally posted by Blue One


Originally posted by yellowwelly

out of curiosity, what would it need to do to make you want to change from the lightning/moth/laser... or what are you hoping for from the RS-0 to be significantly different?

Simple, I want laser like sailing experience but with a better, more controllable rig.


Didn't your Supernova fulfil that requirement?

No. You should know, you have seen me sail it.
 The m7 mast is far to stiff for a light weight like me, even the fat boys in the British moth fleet wouldn't use one. My ideal boat has to have the speed of a laser, crossed with the rig control a have with the moth or the lightning."




Not sure I understand that with the Supernova. It offers a much greater ability to depower than virtually anything I have sailed before. One of the frequent champions has won Nationals in big winds and is under 75kg so unless you are superfly would have thought it wouldn't be an issue.  

With the cunningham full on and the forestay dropped back I can sail it flat and unfeathered up to 18 knots and yet still can be fully powered at 8 knots. Mast is reasonably stiff I 'd agree, but the controls more than compensate. It gives me a greater control range than my Laser with two sails. 

I realise that thin flexi carbon masts are a simpler and increasingly cheap way of extending the broadness of the power range, but I have yet to sail one that matches the range that can be generated by a good traveller (d-one, megabyte) , or adjustable forestay ( Supernova, Phantom, etc ) when combined with a decent cunningham set up.






All your points are valid, but I weigh 70 kg and hike like a man with no legs.  LOL

And let's be honest, most supernovas sailors are a little on the portly side. Wink ( I have been to their inlands )


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Fair point.

Thats the problem with hiking single handers, you have to hike them!

Always thought there was a market for a dinghy that you can't hike for all us guys with dodgy knees.

Lymington Scows and the Hamble foxers (sailed by some sailing rockstars for a laugh) both have class rules that mean you have to sit in the boat and hiking is strictly forbidden.


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Sorry, if you think I was dissing the supernova, I wasn't. It's a great boat, so much better than a laser, but just not for me.

Funny you should mention lymington scows, both my wife and I have new British moths made by John Claridge, who also makes the scows.
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hiking is strictly forbidden.


Hiking should be forbidden, ungainly, uncool, ungentlemanly, toilet style knafness, everything bad about the sport, right there, if man should be outside of the boat then he should be supported, by rack or wire.
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Originally posted by iGRF

Originally posted by SimonW99

hiking is strictly forbidden.


Hiking should be forbidden, ungainly, uncool, ungentlemanly, toilet style knafness, everything bad about the sport, right there, if man should be outside of the boat then he should be supported, by rack or wire.
 
or plank ?
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Originally posted by iGRF

Originally posted by SimonW99

hiking is strictly forbidden.


Hiking should be forbidden, ungainly, uncool, ungentlemanly, toilet style knafness, everything bad about the sport, right there, if man should be outside of the boat then he should be supported, by rack or wire.
 
or plank ?"


planks ! now that is unnatural. don't those guys know that canoes should be left to paddling down rivers!

John Claridge also makes the lightening btw.

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Perching ones rear on a wing is far more dignified then dangling off wires or dealing with the corner turning knightmare that is the sliding seat
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