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Blue One 
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 Topic: When all boats retire.Posted: 10 Feb 14 at 3:47pm |
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Is all very British. If we want to drive in, we have to go though the allotments! :)
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JimC
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Posted: 10 Feb 14 at 1:04pm |
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I did..
Isn't that wonderful. In how many other countries could that be the directions to a Sailing club? Edited by JimC - 10 Feb 14 at 1:04pm |
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gordon
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Posted: 10 Feb 14 at 12:43pm |
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One key point - there is a difference between:
- abandoning a race - which is an action by the race committee or protest committee. An abadoned race may be resailed -not scoring a race - in which case the race has been sailed but not abandoned, and cannot be resailed In this case - a boat has sailed the course in compliance with rule 28 and finished within the time limit. The race should be scored. The boat retires after finishing therfore she is scored RET. This is an applicable penalty for her breach of rule 41. The only issue is whether this boat deliberately broke a rule by not retiring immediately after receiving outside help. In which case a protest could be lodged under rule 2 or action taken under rule 69. I would suggest that if this incident took place on sheltered water, and boats in other classes were still racing, nobody was inconvenienced etc etc then such action might be over the top. If however, safety boats had to stay on the water, the finish boat and marklayers had to wait for the boat to finish their "jolly", if racing for other boats had to be postponed or abandoned then perhaps some action should be taken - either under rule 2 or 6 or dealt with as a club matter. |
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Blue One
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Posted: 10 Feb 14 at 12:09pm |
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Think you don't know enough about us, as you've miss read it a little.  Will fill you in. I sail on a tiny puddle ( 10 acres) in the middle of England. ( Google Mid Warwickshire Yacht Club)Its not like we sail on the sea or sidney harbour. Rescue is always close at hand and even if it wasn't, it's only like swimming the length of a swimming pool to the bank.  And to finish, the reason the committee member has never needed to abandon a race is because the sailors themselves decide not to sail before the race. We are mostly middle-aged men and women, our gung ho days are long gone. Lol. On a personal point, I have sailed in the past at clubs that did not have rescue cover or poor rescue cover. So I am very used to doing race/ no race analysis.
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Brass
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Posted: 10 Feb 14 at 11:40am |
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Mate, this has got 'dangerously gung-ho' written all over it. I suggest that your race officers seriously need some more training and practice at race/no-race risk analysis.
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Brass
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Posted: 10 Feb 14 at 11:27am |
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That's what rule 90.3( a ) does: one boat finishing constitutes a race.
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Blue One
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Posted: 10 Feb 14 at 11:15am |
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Why? At our club, as long as one person wants to race, we have a race. The only exception to this is if the weather is so bad that the committee member running the race decides to abandon it. Which has never happened in my 15 years at the club. |
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Time Lord
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Posted: 10 Feb 14 at 9:50am |
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Patj
Believe under RRS that if one boat starts then that is a race. Think there was an appeal case on this a few years ago so unless you have something more written into the SIs then one boat = a race. |
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Posted: 10 Feb 14 at 7:12am |
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No plans to host the AC then...
Thanks Jim and Brass. I hadn't considered unhelpful/unwanted help. |
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patj
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Posted: 10 Feb 14 at 6:46am |
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If only two boats started the race it sounds like you need a rule about how many boats are required on the start line for a race to start. It's set at 3 at our puddle and 4 at the big pond.
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