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    Posted: 07 Feb 14 at 3:01pm
In some ways I have, I suppose, though not quite what I was picturing in my head...

I suppose the problem is that a narrow boat heeds a sitting out aid, and the simplest and lightest of them is a trapeze. Wings, sliding seats are added complication, weight and have to be transported somehow. But, a trapeze involves having a rig with shrouds (the Delta having shown just how big an unstayed mast has to be) which adds its own complications.

Maybe the Minisail needs to be re-drawn to reflect building it half the weight it is currently, and have a better rig put on. Scow bowed boats seem to cope with being narrow better than traditional pointy bowed dinghies. Mind it would have to be strong enough to run onto the beach - can a 4 metre 25kg hull cope with that when built out of fairly inexpensive materials?
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Originally posted by Rupert

It is possible to build a dinghy that makes things that easy?

Rupert, you've really described the Farr 3.7. OK its usually a one piece mast, but not that long...
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I collected my new MoJo, on a trailer, last Sunday, given the weekends forecast it may well be a little while before she gets wet again.





Now safely tucked away in the warehouse.
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In fairness I think both the Punk and RS (50?) are targeting ease of transport.  As does the Hoot of course.  At 50kg, I could car top a D-One too... so I'm being a little cheeky here, but it is nice not to buy a load of steel to sit in a trailer park for most of the year, only to be dragged out once in a blue moon to find it's got a puncture or some pikey's nicked the mast support and O-clip.
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It is possible to build a dinghy that makes things that easy? Trapeze off a narrow, lightweight hull (no racks or massive flare) that will easily fit on the car roof and be carried by one person. Fairly small rig (light and narrow, so no need of massive power) with 2 piece mast and simple controls. Yes, the lack of righting moment would keep absolute speed down, but it would be worth it for the ease of use.
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I collected 'Mojo' today after a rather hectic week last week put pay to any sailing jaunts.   It went on the roof and I was able to travel at the national speed limit, in the outside lane when overtaking and wasn't charged double to go through the toll road.... bliss.

It's now safely tucked up in the garage waiting for the wind to softening up a bit.  Looking at the forecast it's unlikely I'd get out on it this weekend, not to worry, I've got an 85L shortboard that I haven't tried yet and that's good for 40 knot gusts....  LOL
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Exactly Steve!

And Rupert- given a RTC inland course in 5-8 knots, I'd take a tricked up wayfarer over the ISO!
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Box rules seem to be the way forward in competitive sailing- they are in catamarans and windsurfers - and the vibe is lot more chilled out from casual observation.  Maybe there's a place for that for dinghies- grandfathering former classes.  An umbrella class for RS300s and low riders could be a starting point I guess.... 
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I used to have some great races with a lowrider Moth a few years back at BCYC. I was quicker upwind and he was quicker down, but pretty even overall.
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I'd say there is  lot less variety in hull shapes in cats and boards than in sailing dinghies - lets face it, on paper, a Wayfarer and ISO aren't that different as far as a box rule would see them - similar length, similar width - probably similar weight, too...
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