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    Posted: 20 Jan 14 at 2:12pm
Originally posted by sargesail

Easy wins or mastery GRF.....you are the acme of the churn marketeers target.
Yes the 300 does take a bit to get over the performance hump but its worth every swim.....and it's not as bad as many make out.....but you do have to have the stick wiggling basics off pat first....


Well no, you have to learn a whole new raft of stick wigglery or so the young man told me once I'd managed to get back alive and without a swim, although that was more through sheer winsurfery balance reaction than anything.

It's a bloody great long thing on a par with a Musto and has to be swung around the back to all intents, it was the only things that really had me perplexed, I could handle the wobble and I'm sure some wax would get rid of the slippy high points which make it's high sidedness so intimidating to your average sailing dwarf.

And what's with that nose down attitude, that felt a bit weird as well, the long stick encourages you to sit forward, it feels like you should sit forward, yet the nose is biting like a bitch.

So no I don't think it's a design masterpiece, I think it's another 90's hangover from the marketing regime that went 'you're only any good if you can sail one of these' but omitted the brackets (because we can't).

This was on a lake in conditions that were just about as clement as they come I hate to think what a force four would do to our relationship. (Me and Satans Spawn it should have been the RS666.)
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Originally posted by yellowwelly

Originally posted by Rupert

For some reason the Cat concept, which appears, for open water at least, to do this perfectly, doesn't fit. 

Why is that?  I know the cat thing doesn't really appeal to me.  They're great fun for dicking around on a caribbean beach, but a cold winter's day on a pond in Mordor.... nope, not for me.  

The Sprint 15 actually gets closer than most, IMO. In single sail hiking mode anybody can sail it in a moderate breeze, then can progress to jib+trapeze and stronger winds. Can even take a passenger.
OK they're rubbish in sub 5knots, mainly because tacking takes so long and you frequently stop altogether. When the lasers start to pass you, you know you're having a bad day! Angry

I had a Vortex once, thinking it would be the best of catamaran and monohull worlds. For me, it was the worst of both.
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OK they're rubbish in sub 5knots

... as opposed to what which is stonking fun in 5 knots????  We get so wrapped up in thinking our sport is watersport, but in truth it's a more a wind sport.  (Think Ice yachting, land yachting, kiteboarding etc)

At least the Dart 15s are solid in the upper wind ranges.  When it's properly windy at the duck pond it's usually only windsurfers and Darts brave/stupid enough to go out.  

The best bit of sailing kit you can have for Wednesday nights?  A push bike or a cinema listing in the boot of the car  LOL
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5 knots is fine. 1 or 2, not.
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Well Yellow, I may be perverse, but I actually like racing in light winds - gives me time to think about what I'm doing (and why others are doing it better!).
Sure the cat is huge fun in a strong wind, but I have to admit that when racing in those conditions I'm just trying to survive and get round without pitchpoling.
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Originally posted by iGRF

Originally posted by sargesail

Easy wins or mastery GRF.....you are the acme of the churn marketeers target.
Yes the 300 does take a bit to get over the performance hump but its worth every swim.....and it's not as bad as many make out.....but you do have to have the stick wiggling basics off pat first....


Well no, you have to learn a whole new raft of stick wigglery or so the young man told me once I'd managed to get back alive and without a swim, although that was more through sheer winsurfery balance reaction than anything.

It's a bloody great long thing on a par with a Musto and has to be swung around the back to all intents, it was the only things that really had me perplexed, I could handle the wobble and I'm sure some wax would get rid of the slippy high points which make it's high sidedness so intimidating to your average sailing dwarf.

And what's with that nose down attitude, that felt a bit weird as well, the long stick encourages you to sit forward, it feels like you should sit forward, yet the nose is biting like a bitch.

So no I don't think it's a design masterpiece, I think it's another 90's hangover from the marketing regime that went 'you're only any good if you can sail one of these' but omitted the brackets (because we can't).

This was on a lake in conditions that were just about as clement as they come I hate to think what a force four would do to our relationship. (Me and Satans Spawn it should have been the RS666.)

Round the back far easier once you get the gist....

Nose down - gets the wide bits out the back out of the water and the bite helps you point - and yes one of the reasons for the long stick is the need to get forward.  Try doing that as a 95kg gorilla rather than a wee capuchin monkey.

Huge irony in 'you're only any good if you can sail one of these' since one of the things that held the class back was selling too many to those who weren't up for the challenge (especially as the dempgraphic for a relatively expensive singlehander is middle aged plus (kept mine all the way from my young years so I guess that's OK...
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Sorry, just had to close those brackets.


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Originally posted by Rupert

))

Sorry, just had to close those brackets.


 
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... was an invitation - I was expecting more formula before the end brackets!

BTW this thread has reminded me that I made a conscious decision not to spread my Mojo too thinly - one obsessional sport is quite enough...
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Originally posted by sargesail

BTW this thread has reminded me that I made a conscious decision not to spread my Mojo too thinly - one obsessional sport is quite enough...

you should try snowboarding for an addictive buzz with kit-inspired techno-babble.... knocks dinghies and windsurfers into a cocked hat!

My latest toy... a top of the range all mountain freestyle board, with some serious tech running through it.  I can can't wait to get it to the proper snow in March.
  
Coupled with carbon infused bindings that I had to import from the US as the UK agent doesn't stock them as they are too high end for the UK market.  But they are seriously sweet and comfortable...

 
 



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