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    Posted: 25 Nov 13 at 9:07pm
No- they've all brought the sport into terrible repute.... Shocking.

Now did anyone profit from it anyway, and can we trace the root cause back to Dr Baby-Fingers?
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Internet protest hearing is open ...
"Facts" presented so far .... Alto was to windward ... there was contact ... 
Did anyone retire or take a penalty?
Edit. No 400 or Alto is scored retired so I assume one of you did turns, yes?



Erm.... for the third time in this thread...

".... As I said at the time I knew I was in the wrong and would have done a penalty (and did), but I didn't need that damage. "
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To quick there ... The committee just made an edit. Please review. 

You did 3 turns I assume?
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Originally posted by Bootscooter

 

".... As I said at the time I knew I was in the wrong and would have done a penalty (and did), but I didn't need that damage. "

The committee has noted the statement in bold ... and also the additional latter information in brackets  Wink
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Originally posted by 2547


Originally posted by iGRF

Originally posted by boatshed



A few snaps from Saturday



I have to ask, I love this shot, but is this what furballers have to do in light air, or are they mid tack or something?

That is them coming out of a roll tack .. the helm is about to move upto the new windward side and squeeze the both both forwards and upright.

But you aren't allowed to gain speed by tacking...are you?
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That is correct you can't gain speed but to can get back up to speed. 

  1. A boat’s crew may move their bodies to exaggerate the rolling that facilitates steering the boat through a tack or a gybe, provided that, just after the tack or gybe is completed, the boat’s speed is not greater than it would have been in the absence of the tack or gybe.

     
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Originally posted by 2547

Internet protest hearing is open ...

"Facts" presented so far .... Alto was to windward ... there was contact ... 


Edit. I assume one of you did a 720 for hitting the 400 and 360 for the committee boat ...

Also I believe the 400 would be penalised for not giving room to a give way boat and causing serious damage. 

Not so sure I remember seeing any rule which says your suppose to sail into a boat you have no rights over possibly risking injuring a hiking Merlin crew just to allow another boat to get further into somewhere it shouldn't have been in the first place!!
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SECTION B
GENERAL LIMITATIONS
14 AVOIDING CONTACT
A boat shall avoid contact with another boat if reasonably possible.
However, a right-of-way boat or one entitled to room or mark-room
(a) need not act to avoid contact until it is clear that the other boat
is not keeping clear or giving room or mark-room, and
(b) shall be exonerated if she breaks this rule and the contact does
not cause damage or injury.

Your words;

"...Alto - Race 1 - few seconds after start a couple of feet from committee boat, merlin a few feet to leeward...."

Edited by Bootscooter - 25 Nov 13 at 9:55pm
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Now insert a helm and crews bum into that couple of feet, also bear in mind you were going substantially quicker than we were and also a boat turns around its centreboard and I was looking where I was going, by the time I was aware of where you were, had I born away it would only have swung the corner of my transom into you harder, and instead of having 1 damaged boat you were liable for, you could have had 2 and maybe a Merlin as well!! As it is you only hit us a glancing blow and its only your own boat damaged and nobody was hurt!!
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Whatever mate. I made one comment on Sat night, not identifying you, not making a big song and dance. You've taken the time to register on the forum after your bumper-car facebook post was copied here, to justify yourself.
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