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    Posted: 23 Oct 13 at 12:19pm
I have seen some photos but as they are not mine to post so I won't ...

Looks quite long; probably 15ft; very high aspect rig with 3 full battens at the top and two soft battens ... sleeved sail like a windsurfer (camber inducers?) gnav set up on the kicker. Can't really tell from the photo angle but it may have a bow profile similar to the Ovi girls skiff (can't recall the name) and a completely open transom.

Edited by boatbasher - 23 Oct 13 at 12:20pm
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A sleeved sail? If they want to beat the Laser then a major bug bear for Laser sailors is the sleeved sail meaning they have to step the mast with the sail attached. Surely if it wants to improve on the Laser it needs a sail that is hoisted in a track, that way people can leave the mast up and just hoist the sail just before launching....
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Originally posted by boatbasher

I have seen some photos but as they are not mine to post so I won't ...

Looks quite long; probably 15ft; very high aspect rig with 3 full battens at the top and two soft battens ... sleeved sail like a windsurfer (camber inducers?) gnav set up on the kicker. Can't really tell from the photo angle but it may have a bow profile similar to the Ovi girls skiff (can't recall the name) and a completely open transom.



sounds very interesting, but doesnt sound relevent to puddle sailors or the average solo sailor.

hope i am wrong Smile


Edited by ex laser - 23 Oct 13 at 12:43pm
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Originally posted by L123456

Originally posted by Medway Maniac

Originally posted by Roger


I doubt very much they were trying "secret testing" as you put it. RS chose to sail these boats at Salcombe over a weekend when over 30 Solos and several National 12s were attending an open meeting, if you wanted to keep something secret then you would have gone somewhere a little quieter.

Good thinking, and so it was indeed probably not by chance a Solo open, as suggested by the original post.

Indeed, deliberate stunt by the looks of things. Plenty of sleepy small clubs in the uk if you really wanted to be discreet. 

Why would you even need a club...?
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Originally posted by GybeFunny

A sleeved sail? If they want to beat the Laser then a major bug bear for Laser sailors is the sleeved sail...

Seriously? And for 40 years they've just been keeping it to themselves...?
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Originally posted by boatbasher


Looks quite long; probably 15ft; very high aspect rig with 3 full battens at the top and two soft battens

So another s/hander for fatties most likely?  

A problem with the 100 was that the design started out suitable for lesser mortals, but by the time the large & expert people at RS had developed it, it had become a lot more of a handful than originally intended.  

They need to get more novices or at least 'improvers' involved in the testing if they want a popular club boat.  Car manufacturers don't tend to invite engineers or racing drivers to their salons when evaluating the market appeal of new products...


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Originally posted by sandgrounder

Originally posted by GybeFunny

A sleeved sail? If they want to beat the Laser then a major bug bear for Laser sailors is the sleeved sail...

Seriously? And for 40 years they've just been keeping it to themselves...?
 
No, the ladies in the fleet have never been shy when it comes to asking for a hand to put the rig up or down.
I don't think a sleeved sail with long battens is going to work well at some clubs where there isn't space to leave the boat on its side as the moths do, unless it's very quick and easy to unstep the mast.
 
But designing for 'mass appeal' is sometimes a mugs' game.
Better to have a smaller number of people really wanting a product than lots of people making do with it?
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Originally posted by RS400atC

Originally posted by sandgrounder

Originally posted by GybeFunny

A sleeved sail? If they want to beat the Laser then a major bug bear for Laser sailors is the sleeved sail...

Seriously? And for 40 years they've just been keeping it to themselves...?
 
No, the ladies in the fleet have never been shy when it comes to asking for a hand to put the rig up or down.
I don't think a sleeved sail with long battens is going to work well at some clubs where there isn't space to leave the boat on its side as the moths do, unless it's very quick and easy to unstep the mast.
 
But designing for 'mass appeal' is sometimes a mugs' game.
Better to have a smaller number of people really wanting a product than lots of people making do with it?

I would imagine a person unable to lift a 4kg unstayed carbon mast would probably struggle to sail the boat.
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What? And miss out on a vast lazy market?!
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