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    Posted: 12 Oct 13 at 9:42am
As the 'learn to sail'season draws to a close we are once again faced with the unenviable task of putting the club lasers back together.  They get chipped round the mast hole, chipped along the transom, tillers get bent and broken, rudders get scratched and damaged, daggerboards have chunks taken out.  expensive parts go missing.  Not ideal for hard working training boats.  Yet what alternative can I offer the larger adults and youths who wont fit in the bog standard pico or topper?  And believe me, these youths are getting bigger all the time.

Please could someone design a robust, ideally rotomoulded single hander with a couple of rig sizes, not intended for racing, but entertaining enough to tempt sailors to make the step towards racing and buying their own boat.


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Q'Ba sounds like it would fit the bill.  They're quite nice boats (for their ilk)
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Post Options Post Options   Quote winging it Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Oct 13 at 10:14am
the starter sail on the quba is no bigger than the pico.  I want the next boat up from the pico/quba, whoch doesn't seem to exist at the moment.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote iitick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Oct 13 at 10:33am
 Q ba thing has 2 different sails. The battened one is ok and the cockpit is big. A lady at our club has one and it is quite fast. Bandit.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Rupert Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Oct 13 at 10:47am
Still a small boat, though, the Q'ba.

I agree that a roto-boat singlehander with more length than the Pico but without the bulk of the current crop of doublehanders would be a good idea. Not designed to race, but if the numbers are there, you can race anything.

The other roto-boat that doesn't exist is the larger Feva. All the bigger boats seem a hell of a lot bigger and more clumsy. We need Paul Handley to get on to that one, if he can stop designing keelboats for a bit!
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the club version has the small sail, and I have seen plenty of centres use them as an alternative to the pico.  The bigger sail is the way we'd want to go, but I'm not sure a fully battened mylar main is the way to go for a training boat. 
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What about some of the new Hartley rotamoulds?
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I'm somewhat surprised that Sunsail, Neilson etc haven't caused this to come into existence. The Q'Ba really is an RS Pico, very much the same size boat.

The Hartley H12 again is similar- it's not clear if the quoted sail size is the triangular batten free roller reefable sail or the big roach battened sail with mylar bit, but I'll be t it is the latter, and that the simple sail is about the same size as a Pico one.

Really surprises me that a 13-14ft rotomold with a 7m^2 sail that can roll round the mast is still something that isn't available 
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bigger than a Pico / Q'ba, capable of carrying more weight and roto-moulded.... hhhmmm

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