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Rossiter Pintail Mortagne sur Gironde, near Bordeaux |
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Laser 28 - Excellent example of this great design Hamble le rice |
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Daniel Holman ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 17 Nov 08 Online Status: Offline Posts: 997 |
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I know what you mean - trouble is the old interweb means that nothing in a monthly magazine is "news" per se so all it can be is comment/features. I don't think boat tests were particularly hard hitting and objective esp for advertisers even in the days of Peter Bentley back in the early nineties when I started reading it. Plus circulation for print media of this sort will inevitably down so the pickings between adverts and pics will inevitably be slim if the economics are to stack up. It's the same with seahorse - a lot of the content now is a bit irrelevant, the editorial off the pace, but they don't have quite te same online presence. Whilst this all sounds grim, I still buy the odd copy of razzle at the garage despite there being no reason, economic or otherwise, that I should have to do this in this day and age. Maybe I am an old sentimentalist who likes the sun to glint off a glossy page from time to time rather than the screen, but I think the mag will always have a future of some sort. |
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Daniel Holman ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 17 Nov 08 Online Status: Offline Posts: 997 |
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You'll be rm limited upwind in a una singlehander in 8 to 10kts so it's a big factor.
Phant has 9.75m2 sail iirc, 300 and hadron 10m2. Agreed phant is longer but if the hadron is 7'4" wide like a merlin it's massively wider thus more powerful. |
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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I'd expect it to be slower than a 300, though easier to get the speed from it. The Phantom is longer and has a bigger sail, so why slower than the Hadron? Over all, sitting out power only matters when you are overpowered, and a PN reflects all wind strengths.
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Ruscoe ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 12 Jan 10 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1514 |
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+100 It's not even a shadow of its former self.
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Daniel Holman ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 17 Nov 08 Online Status: Offline Posts: 997 |
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The hadron is 14' long, merlin width, has 10m2 of sail right?
About 80kg ready to sail? It should be RS300 speed really then - PY1000 I.e. faster than a phant. Although that assumes that everything is optimised and executed nicely in the design to maximise the potential indicated by its vital stats |
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yellowwelly ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 May 13 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2003 |
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Thanks Mike
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aardvark_issues ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 Jul 05 Location: Weston-Super-Mare Online Status: Offline Posts: 505 |
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full length central buoyancy tanks are the way forward. Keeps the boat low out of a capsize and stops the water sloshing from side to side keeping it stable while you get your feet and get moving. Also lets the boat float lower on it's side allowing you to get on the board.
I built pretty much all my 12's like it and with or without a double floor they are pretty helpful. Helps if you've got a bit of freeboard though to keep you up on your feet into manueveurs. Edited by aardvark_issues - 04 Oct 13 at 4:16pm |
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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I can understand why they do it with wash through designs like the EPS, but the Hadron isn't one of those at least there is a whole lot of potential mast supporting freeboard between the bottom of the boat and the deck almost to the point an unstayed rig would work, he's not trapezing either so why deck mount, have all those wires, reduce your ability to sail clew first, by the lee, whatever you want to call it. Tell me one single advantage of deck mounting the mast, other than the ability to use some cheap short poc |
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yellowwelly ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 May 13 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2003 |
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I reckon it's tied around the rudder on the shore.... buoyancy test at Alton Water SC???
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Neptune ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Jun 09 Location: Berkshire United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1314 |
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what's the craic with the mainsheet? did you lose it in the capsize?
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