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Originally posted by rb_stretch

Originally posted by SUGmeister


IMHO look a bit like a two man dinghy being sailed singlehandedly with the jib taken off.


Exactly what I thought. The freeboard just seems too high and the mast somewhat further back then you expect on a SH.
 
And that's a problem, because...?
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Originally posted by iGRF



Then Blaze v Phantom

Then Supernova V Hadron v Whatever else sits at that level.
 

I would not put the Blaze with the Phantom these days, maybe Phantom vs RS300 vs Halo 

Then Supernova Vs Hadron vs Blaze

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Originally posted by rb_stretch

Exactly what I thought. The freeboard just seems too high and the mast somewhat further back then you expect on a SH.


You could argue there's no point in designing a singlehander that's just like all the other singlehanders.

To my mind there are loads of reasons for havig the rig further back in the boat, and really only one reason for having it near the front, but as the one is to make it easier to tack without ending up in irons its quite a powerful one.

Freeboard is always an interesting one. The wider the boat the more freeboard you need, all else being equal, but on the other hand the more boat there is the greater the weight and cost. From the point of view of speed having the crew's ass hit by every wave is a really good way of losing performance upwind and sapping the sailor's energy.
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Another reason for the mast being forwards is so you can have a low aspect sail of a decent size without the boom sticking out over the back of the boat. Doesn't apply here, of course, with the fairly long luffed rig.

Does she get stuck in irons? And does the bow stay up nicely on the bear away?
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my only reservation is the central bouyancy tank... having served my time now smashing my legs over the centreboard casing of the Solo, I'm not sure this would really appeal on a design where these 'old school' niggles are supposed to be removed.

Why this, and not a couple of big inflatables down the back corners?

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> why this
I imagine its so that the boat floats low in the water and is less prone to inverting.

It also does a lot to reduce water in the boat when upright without reducing the depth of the foot wells.

I don't know that its what I would do, but its a logical solution to a lot of frequently expressed complaints about other modern singlehanders.

I must confess to a degree of amusement about a post complaining about "old school niggles" yet which recommends buoyancy bags!

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would it work with less aggressive angles?  (I know it's designed for homebuilt out of trees, but...)
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Originally posted by yellowwelly

my only reservation is the central bouyancy tank... having served my time now smashing my legs over the centreboard casing of the Solo, I'm not sure this would really appeal on a design where these 'old school' niggles are supposed to be removed.
Why this, and not a couple of big inflatables down the back corners?


Inflatable bags? What like a merlin? Shut up will you, you need to go into that small room, put your head into the large white telephone and push the button marked flush, then check the date, which century we're in, get some perspective.
I don't mind that and I certainly like that it's got a centreboard, think i'd put my toestrap up on the side of it, what also would likely annoy me is water hanging about, it doesn't look as if it going to self drain.
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And whilst I'm off ranting again, what is it with the fixation of mounting the mast up on the deck, how does that make any sense, why not bang it on the floor, they did that with the Icon, I just don't get it. Save a few pence on mast length, a few grammes weight, it can't be any other reason that I can think of..
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