Four races done

   Are the boat speeds that different?  Up until ETNZ ballsed up that tack on top of OTUSA the upwind speed wasn't that different, OTUSA didn't seem to be making huge gains.  I think the final separation is purely down to who rounds the windward mark first because once ETNZ were up to speed the gap didn't really get much bigger I don't think.

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Kev M Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 05 Dec 11 Location: Landlocked Online Status: Offline Posts: 346	Post Options Post Reply Quote Kev M Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Four races done Posted: 24 Sep 13 at 10:55pm
	Are the boat speeds that different? Up until ETNZ ballsed up that tack on top of OTUSA the upwind speed wasn't that different, OTUSA didn't seem to be making huge gains. I think the final separation is purely down to who rounds the windward mark first because once ETNZ were up to speed the gap didn't really get much bigger I don't think.
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ohFFsake Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 04 Sep 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 219	Post Options Post Reply Quote ohFFsake Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 24 Sep 13 at 11:01pm
	What an incredible day's sailing. An absolutely masterful demonstration of match racing tactics by Spithill in race 1. Then in race 2 they really showed their quality. After losing the initiative early on it looked like they had a touch more speed downwind to put them back in contention, then that move on the beat was the moment of the whole regatta. But what happened after that? Did ETNZ just give up? Oracle just seemed to walk away, with a far greater speed differential than in the first race.

sargesail Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 14 Jan 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1459	Post Options Post Reply Quote sargesail Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 24 Sep 13 at 11:13pm
	What I don't get is why TNZ did not go for the dial down. Commentators only discussed the lee bow or the cross and go, but there was a third way. See racing rules threads

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	Dangerous I guess, on commentary it seemed the decision to lee bow was taken immediately after the tack, so pretty early, does the dial down require more height perhaps? I am not sure it was immediately obvious they would get the ROW as Oracle was flying upwind! At the end of the day it was a mistake, we all make those. I have to say I am totally amazed at the difference Ben has made, you have to admire/laugh at his antics at the start, pure drama.

alstorer Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 02 Aug 07 Location: Cambridge Online Status: Offline Posts: 2899	Post Options Post Reply Quote alstorer Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 25 Sep 13 at 9:00am
	In the "rubbing" start- ETNZ through that had their wing inverted. No bloody wonder they went sideways...
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	Critically, Oracle let their job fly as they went head to wind, so were able to just and so maintain momentum while NZ stopped

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	I thought with up to 15 sec to go Dean had done a pretty reasonable job.... yes he was to close to the line but he had Oracle under control but then it all went tits up. Ironically of course had he been another 3ft closer to the line Oracle wouldn't have had the space for the hook and although ETNZ would still have lost the start it wouldn't have turned into the mess that developed. Ian
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	Was it a mess? I thought it was a carefully crafted mess, with the intention to inflict maximum penalty on ETNZ, classic Ainslie I thought. Did they not inch that rudder over a tad to ensure contact?
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	is it just me or was Oracle very close to not giving NZ room to keep clear when they obtained the overlap from astern?

ohFFsake Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 04 Sep 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 219	Post Options Post Reply Quote ohFFsake Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 25 Sep 13 at 10:24am
	When you saw the replay on "virtual eye" Spithill's control was perfect - ghosting along almost head to wind until ETNZ lost way and drifted down onto them. Also, under the new rules, if a ROW boat is unable to manoeuvre then the other boat is not keeping clear. Hence Oracle loudly announcing their inability to be able to bear away and start. With the benefit of 20/20 hindsight, Barker's error becomes clear. He was clear ahead and early with lots of room below him on the line. If he'd just borne away further when Oracle went to the hook the start would have been his for the taking. Instead it seemed like he was intent on starting at the windward end of the line so left the other boat a wide open door for the hook, which they executed to perfection (as he acknowledged).