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    Posted: 19 Sep 13 at 4:57pm
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Originally posted by iitick

...... Perhaps if this "guy" gets fed up he might contact the Lightning Class Association where there is a shortage of boats. 

 
You should be more encouraging, like telling him he'll learn lots coming to an event or two.
So he can boost his club performance to super GRF beating levels.....


I do encourage him/them and they are mustard keen, they sail an L3k just like my old one not sure they're ready just yet for external humiliation and certainly not on inland water at the hands of silver fox shift monkeys even I'd baulk at that task, he needs a winter down the lake that'll be ritual enough..
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The sail is over 7 sqM, GRF. I would suggest you have a go in one, but the class might be rather too relaxed for you. I do agree that when racing in a handicap fleet, having a boat which is much slower than most of the boats out there isn't much fun, so maybe the Lightning is the wrong boat in that situation.

I agree that he would learn a lot, and have fun, if he came to a meeting or 2.
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her indoors has one so of course I had to check it over for her.  I am soemwhat larger than the average female, but found the sail plenty big enough.  A sweet boat, easy to rig and tweaky enough for me.  Had it been windy and we had been at home I would have taken it to the Nationals.  
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What would we do without young Fuller? He is kind to animals and children, spent a fortune re- inventing the wheel for our enjoyment, admirable, but sometimes he really talks bollyocks. Money and mouth, I will lend him a Lightning for next years Nationals.

If you are lightish but not athletic enough for a Byte C2 then sail a Lightning.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote iGRF Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Sep 13 at 7:39pm
I need to get him down the lake in it, maybe I need to borrow it myself and have a bash in it, maybe when it's windy, that big sail on the EPS can be a bit of a handfull at times, especially when it's gusty, you can't really use the racks they're too far out to react to the sharp on off and shifty gusts they get down there.

So, truthfull answer now, Streaker v Lightning which is quicker when? I can't seem to get enough stats to side by side the pair, on the face of it if I were guessing I'd give it to the lightning in a drifter and the streaker when the wind builds then once it's a four or above it would be just down to the helms, would that be far off the truth?
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The Lightning problem is that it has become rather dated SMOD. I know John C has changed a few things but its still a rather dull boat. Perhaps the class needs to be very self critical, ask the reason why other similar sized boats (Streakers) are selling. Sorry to be brutally honest. I can see the guys that sail it are very enthusiastic, help full bunch who enjoy their racing. Its nice friendly stuff, but is it too much of a clique?
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Yep, that's the reason, no competition between builders, sailmakers etc which is what's also driving those other classes, I can see the attraction having now spent all this evening so far pawing over the website and looking at what it's competitors have going for them (which frankly aint much I think it's a nice boat but you need a bit more competition between the suppliers).
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The Lightning is a great boat, with a class run by very committed members. I've had two. Enjoyed the first, the second less so. They're not true one-designs, mast variation is a big factor. Makes a big difference-that's surely one of the attractions of the Solo. There you can buy exactly what suits your weight/style.

I've always thought the boat should be hopeless in light winds-no rocker and big wide aft sections-but that's not the case. It's a total light wind bandit. And cheap too-if you can find one.
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I wouldn't say that the new boats are very different from the old. A quick glance at the recent results shows that. There are improvements which must slightly increase performance but this will only become noticeable at the top end of the fleet. The 'boy' has a carbon topped mast which may help him in a blow whearas later masts are stiffer I believe.

Remember Lightning is a SMOD and every effort has been made to keep it that way. That is why racing is so close.
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is racing less close in non-SMODs?  It seems we have pretty close racing in the Solos, with very good wooden examples easily able to keep pace with newer boats at club level- especially when they're being sailed well.  Wink

Non-SMODs might actually be 'more close'- especially in classes where sailmakers cut sails to suit different spar bends, in turn suiting different sailing styles, helm weights and body strength. 
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