Here we go again.....

   http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/170537/Luna-Rossa-protests-the-Race-Director

I can understand the changes for safety following the tragedy a few weeks ago but surely they would have sat down with all the teams and and hammered this out to make it a smooth transition?

I am guessing they must feel disadvantaged by the changed concerning the rudder and displacement.

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jeffers Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 29 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3048	Post Options Post Reply Quote jeffers Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Here we go again..... Posted: 03 Jul 13 at 9:32am
	http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/170537/Luna-Rossa-protests-the-Race-Director I can understand the changes for safety following the tragedy a few weeks ago but surely they would have sat down with all the teams and and hammered this out to make it a smooth transition? I am guessing they must feel disadvantaged by the changed concerning the rudder and displacement.
	Paul ---------------------- D-Zero GBR 74

alstorer Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 02 Aug 07 Location: Cambridge Online Status: Offline Posts: 2899	Post Options Post Reply Quote alstorer Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 03 Jul 13 at 9:50am
	Wouldn't be the AC without legal action.
	-_ Al

Owenfackrell Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Posting king Joined: 19 Jul 10 Online Status: Offline Posts: 129	Post Options Post Reply Quote Owenfackrell Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 03 Jul 13 at 11:01pm
	It gets worse as he has now said that if the international jury find in Luna rossa and etnz favour then he will effectively cancel the racing by going back to the coast guard. I feel that this is a farcical turn of events as how can the 2 teams implement these to there desgins so close to racing with out making there boats more dangerous. It also leaves oracle to spend the next 2 months (and the fact that they have had these since April!) fine tuning them.

ifoxwell Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 05 Jan 06 Location: Hoo Online Status: Offline Posts: 669	Post Options Post Reply Quote ifoxwell Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 04 Jul 13 at 8:53am
	You do have to feel for Murray The term "rock and a hard place" springs top mind Ian
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ifoxwell Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 05 Jan 06 Location: Hoo Online Status: Offline Posts: 669	Post Options Post Reply Quote ifoxwell Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 08 Jul 13 at 9:43am
	It was great to see New Zealand powering around the course but what a farce the event is turning into. The trouble is we have known for some time that the event is going the way that Americas cup events do, but now its being streamed live on world wide TV! And to make it worse the racing on Tue, and Thur should have Artemis in it so they are going to be one boat events as well... perhaps even no boats if Luna Rossa dont get the news in time? Credit were credit is due however, Andy Green did a good job of making a complete non event sound interesting. Ian
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yellowwelly Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 24 May 13 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2003	Post Options Post Reply Quote yellowwelly Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 08 Jul 13 at 10:54am
	omg, it's worse than dinghy handicap racing... at least with handicap racing you can pretend your racing some one else.

lpasca Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 06 Jul 13 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote lpasca Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 08 Jul 13 at 4:26pm
	Stating that the AC72 class rules 5.5 and 8.2 absolutely need to be changed for security reasons is fal.se There are numerous ways the efficiency of the winglets could be increased without changing the original AC 72 class rule. The real reason is that from the start, Oracle was designed as a "foil-assist" boat, with small rudder winglets placed there mainly to stabilize the boat, which was already fairly stable as the hulls touched the water. ETNZ and LR instead went straight for foiling and have bigger winglets on the rudders that give the boat the right kind of stability needed when foiling. In other words, they complied with the original class rule by designing winglets and positioning rudders so that do they not exceed the 14.0m beam or 1.0m distance from the stern plane even with rudders rotated. Oracle NOW knows that to have a chance of winning it NEEDS TO FOIL fully. It also knows that to do so effectively and with control, it needs far more stability from the winglets than it currently has. However, to do so within the original rules it would need to: 1) Change the cord of the winglets but this would also increase drag – NOT GOOD! 2) Move the rudder forward to have a longer winglets – but this would mean a MAJOR REDESIGN of the boat. So guess what ? We change the rule in the name of security at the last moment !!! To be even more malicious, I would guess that the rules are being changed precisely to legalize the current Oracle winglets – the ones it has been sailing with for some time and which were in breach of the rules until now. Read the rule change for yourself at http://www.cupinfo.com/downloads/ac72-class-rule-safety-acrm-redline-062813.pdf. Look for rule 5.5, 8.2 and the NEW rule 8.9

Laser 173312 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 08 May 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 416	Post Options Post Reply Quote Laser 173312 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 11 Jul 13 at 5:02pm
	Possible decision on Luna Rossa's protest today 1 hour before they are due to race. http://www.sail-world.com/UK/Americas-Cup:-The-Italian-quandary/111821 Seems to me the America's cup is like a woman, can't live with them, can't live without them.