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Originally posted by Do Different "Jib Cunningham? Don't they get tensioned from the head ?  Most of the jibs I've known get tensioned from the hoist, some independent from the forestay others not, but I've never come across one that gets tensioned from below a la cunningham, is that what you need or are you after a jib 'kicker'.." Over to you Winging It, another coaching job, confident to redesign an Icon though..........................

On my 470s we had a system for tensioning the jib luff.  It involved sending the helm down the foredeck to re-tie the string a bit tighter.

(helm because us crews were deemed too heavy, so it was a job for the midget at the back)

Jib sliding up and down forestay on Cunningham and halyard means you can accommodate a decent rake range even on a single clew position.
That particular boat has the big gaping wizards sleeve as a retrofit to make getting 35m2 kites in a bit easier. The jibs are sheeted reasonably broad so don't interfere with it despite the fact it's proud of the deck.

Originally posted by Daniel Holman Jib sliding up and down forestay on Cunningham and halyard means you can accommodate a decent rake range even on a single clew position. That particular boat has the big gaping wizards sleeve as a retrofit to make getting 35m2 kites in a bit easier. The jibs are sheeted reasonably broad so don't interfere with it despite the fact it's proud of the deck.

Nope, don't get that either, a)what particular boat, b)why would you want to rake the jib, it's already raked (or should be) so it's foot is slammed to the floor, is this about boats where the jib halyard and forestay are one in the same thing?

It's an international 14 - I sailed the very boat about a month ago, it's just gone on the market for £5500 having just done 3rd at the nationals.
I probably wasn't clear - you rake the mast, not the jib, however raking the mast affects the fore triangle geometry, so if you go back your once perfectly set jib will now be really loose and twisty even when sheeted hard, and if you rake forward the jib leech will be shut whilst the foot is all deep on max sheet, so a degree of up/down can ameliorate that, and also the fact that it isn't a supplied one design so any one boat will see a large number of different jibs in its time.
It isn't a boat where halyard and forestay are one thing - there is a rule reqt for the sails to be capable of lowering at sea.

Cheers Toby - bit of a heartbreaker but hadn't expected to get that far up. Nearly 3h long race. Made up for it with a cheeky bullet on the last day.

Edited by Daniel Holman - 03 Jul 13 at 10:09pm

Won't take the bait GRF