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    Posted: 02 Jul 13 at 8:42pm
Ben, I can give a point of view from both RS600 and RS300, and I have neither for sale  ;o)
 
67kg is fine for a 600, I was 69kg at last year's mostly windy nationals and somehow managed to win.
 
I've now got a 300, I've bulked up (if you can call it that) to 74kg and still find it hard going upwind, I wouldn't want to be any lighter but there is always the A rig
 
Both are cracking boats but in different ways, in a breeze there is nothing like a 600 upwind or on a tight or beam reach, but the 300 is perhaps a better allrounder and more interesting in less wind.
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Depends on what you want....

You can certainly sail one at that weight - you won't win a Nats, but you'll have amazing fun, and find a new dimension to churning round the cans.  The 300 always puts a smile on my face and I'm known as a grumpy b**tard....

Mine's not for sail either, in fact you'd have to prise the tiller extension from my cold dead hand!  Only saying...
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My first post here, as a 68kg 300 sailor I thought I'd give my thoughts after 2 years in the boat!

Overall, I have found the 300 just a fantastic boat to sail, the adage about coming in with a smile on your face is absolutely true.  There are certain points of sail where being a lightweight is a disadvantage, for example tight reaches in f4+, but then there are also conditions where you are faster than the heavier helms.  My experience is that is it all works out in the mix, and for club racing there are few conditions where I start a race feeling disadvantaged.  We have 5+ 300s sailing, and over a season I'd like to think I hold my own against the other guys (who for the most part are heavier than me).

When the wind is f6+ I find the boat really is a handful offwind, but that could be more down to technique than weight (and I don't think I'm alone!).

One final point I'd make is that the class are very friendly bunch, and whilst open meetings are very competitive the experienced sailors in the fleet make a point of helping out new sailors.
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Originally posted by Mark300

When the wind is f6+ I find the boat really is a handful offwind, but that could be more down to technique than weight (and I don't think I'm alone!).


you wouldn't be alone- and don't forget as an RCD category 'C' dinghy, it's not designed to be sailed in more than a genuine F6 anyway.
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Only the bl**dy boring or lead-mines remain reasonably easy to handle in a genuine F6+, it takes practice and honed-skills to get a high performance dinghy of any sort round a course decently in that kind of breeze, single or double handed.  Not sailed at Chew, no idea if it's shifty or not.  Viewed from space (ok goggle maps) it looks OK for pretty much anything.  I wouldn't go much further than a 300 if that's where you're swinging, but the good old Europe still delivers plenty of grins, Streakers are OK IMO and RS600 is a good place to go if you want to wire it and can't fit a F3.7 or mini-MPS (whatever that thing is called?) into the budget.  Blaze with a carbon stick might be a viable option too, not sure how much you can tweak the mast they've picked to de-power it for your weight, but the wide racks provide good leverage.

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Interestingly I noticed when I was having a gander at the Whitstable results, the guy I sold my 100 to is now campaigning a 300. I shall have to keep an eye on how he does.
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Originally posted by iGRF

Interestingly I noticed when I was having a gander at the Whitstable results, the guy I sold my 100 to is now campaigning a 300. I shall have to keep an eye on how he does.

strange- I'd have thought Whitstable would actually be a good place for a 100.  I wonder why he's moved to the 3?
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Originally posted by yellowwelly

Originally posted by iGRF

Interestingly I noticed when I was having a gander at the Whitstable results, the guy I sold my 100 to is now campaigning a 300. I shall have to keep an eye on how he does.

strange- I'd have thought Whitstable would actually be a good place for a 100.  I wonder why he's moved to the 3?
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