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    Posted: 10 Jun 13 at 2:07pm
As a junction from the other thread:

1.2 Life-Saving Equipment and Personal Flotation Devices 
A boat shall carry adequate life-saving equipment for all persons on 
board, including one item ready for immediate use, unless her class 
rules make some other provision. Each competitor is individually 
responsible for wearing a personal flotation device adequate for the 
conditions. 

I see most BAs offer 
  • 50 Newtons (5kg/11lbs) of buoyancy 
The rules seem very vague on this matter.

Does this get dealt with in the NOR & SIs?


Edited by Old Timer - 10 Jun 13 at 2:18pm
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In the topper SI's they always had 'adequate personal buoyancy aid of no less than 50N'. I think most clubs have it in their constitution as well.

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a very quick glance through the Solo rules doesn't seem to mention PFDs.

looks like I'm okay with that impact vest after all.
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What about your club rules? 
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I signed a disclaimer when I re-joined as a windsurfer.... not obliged to wear one windsurfing, I can only assume that RRS would apply when racing, and as there is no stipulation as to what qualifies as a PFD, the impact vest would technically be acceptable- even if in procuring it, it hasn't bumped up any revenues for a chandlery.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote JimC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Jun 13 at 3:09pm
My understanding is that the RRS are deliberately on the vague side because in many countries there's national legislation which covers the subject. UK sailors have much more freedom than US ones, for instance: AIUI the seppos have all sorts of legislation which is enforced by their coastguards.

You also need to read those rules with yachts in mind as well as, perhaps even more so than dinghies.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote yellowwelly Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Jun 13 at 3:16pm
I know some seppo kids had different PFDs for regatta sailing and college sailing when the US team came over to race our BUSA team in the late 90's- not sure which way around it was, but they had some bulky sh*t to wear at some point that they all hated.
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Rule from my club si's

No mention of 50n

3.2. Personal buoyancy: Personal Floatation Devices (PFD) must be worn by competitors at all
times afloat. Wet suits and dry suits are not personal buoyancy and will not satisfy this
instruction.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Andymac Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Jun 13 at 8:30pm
Originally posted by 2547

Rule from my club si's

No mention of 50n

3.2. Personal buoyancy: Personal Floatation Devices (PFD) must be worn by competitors at all
times afloat. Wet suits and dry suits are not personal buoyancy and will not satisfy this
instruction.
 
Ditto;

7.1 With the exception of windsurfers, who must comply with separate RYA

recommendations, personal buoyancy in the form of an approved buoyancy aid or alternatively

for cruiser sailors and power boat crews, an automatically inflated life jacket, must be worn at

all times when afloat or on the pontoons. The wearing of waders or non-sailing Wellington

boots is prohibited when sailing. Members should note that automatically inflated life jackets

are not suitable for dingy sailing.

There is another bit about wetsuits/drysuits not constituting Personal bouyancy aid.
Although nowhere does it 'qualify' what 'approved' means or by who?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote L123456 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Jun 13 at 10:53pm
Originally posted by Andymac

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Although nowhere does it 'qualify' what 'approved' means or by who?

That is the key ... Poorly written rule there ...
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