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    Posted: 17 May 13 at 3:29pm
Originally posted by SimonW99

........or James will start going on about the 100 solos built in the last year .....

perish the thought... I'm only in one as there's no viable fleet racing in anything else near where we are.  

I even had to give it a different colour deck to stop me falling asleep.

(I'm of course jesting- it's nice enough for a sailboat, and frankly for a bit of local fleet racing it ticks the primary boxes- the guys are friendly, the boats are built beautifully, the modern twists (nice rig, good fittings etc) make it far more enjoyable than a Laser- worth the money imho... but do I feel the same passion for it as I did with say the 100, my Musto Skiff or even my Vareo initially... no, sorry; it's more utilitarian than that and I don't think it pretends to be anything but.


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Originally posted by Ruscoe

Anyway, i am dipping out of this now.  The thread is spiraling into a D1 vs 100 thread again, something i have no interest in.  Good luck to the 100's, i hope the perceived mess gets sorted for the class and i am being sincere with that comment.


me too, with this thought. You can sort out a real mess. You cannot fix a the 'mess' that is perceived solely in the minds of the uninvolved but not actually there.

I don't think any of us 100 sailors have any interest in any 100 v D1 nonsense either; I've not mentioned D1s once. Mr Craig was out in his at Frensham (great practice for Garda!) and it too looks like a cool machine. He beat me of course, but he always does.

I was hoping for some sensible weather at POSH and to cadge a try. Personally, I think it would have been fun to start together there too, not 5 mins apart, but the SIs are what the SIs are.
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Originally posted by fab100

 You cannot fix a the 'mess' that is perceived solely in the minds of the uninvolved but not actually there.

no you can't, and if there is no mess to sort out, as it's only 'perceived', the chap who wrote this on the class forum needn't worry too much about canvassing opinion on that redraft  Wink

Reading it again, does (iv) prevent me (being under 86kg) from using my 10.2 in Frensham club races? If so, whether this goes thru or not, I shall continue to use the bigger rig regardless.

The more I look at it, the more this weight limit looks like a one-way only anachronism. Why is it OK for heavy weights to trade down rigs when it suits but lightweights not trade up? Surely it has to be both or nothing.
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Originally posted by Ruscoe

Anyway, i am dipping out of this now.  The thread is spiraling into a D1 vs 100 thread again, something i have no interest in.  Good luck to the 100's, i hope the perceived mess gets sorted for the class and i am being sincere with that comment.


No one suggesting that its a D-1 vs 100 thread or that the 100 position is a mess ........ apart from your email. Wink

Its 4 pm on a Friday afternoon, so no harm in a healthy discussion.
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Simon- no harm at all , agreed!

Just remember folks, you can have your cake and eat it, if you sail an RS100...
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Originally posted by SimonW99

Originally posted by Ruscoe

Anyway, i am dipping out of this now.  The thread is spiraling into a D1 vs 100 thread again, something i have no interest in.  Good luck to the 100's, i hope the perceived mess gets sorted for the class and i am being sincere with that comment.


No one suggesting that its a D-1 vs 100 thread or that the 100 position is a mess ........ apart from your email. Wink

Its 4 pm on a Friday afternoon, so no harm in a healthy discussion.
It was heading that way so hence why i have pulled out.  What E-mail BTW ???????


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One of the things I can't figure out is why the 10.2 should be such a struggle for the bigger boys?

From the numbers perspective the sail area vs RM does not seem any worse than other boats. The sail is modern, out of modern materials and works on a carbon rig. All of that suggests it should be easier than many other large sailed boats. I would have thought that the sail area to RM is much bigger for Finns/Phantoms and therefore they should be much harder work. So why are people struggling with the 10.2?
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Originally posted by pondmonkey

[QUOTE=r2d2] because the 8.4 sailors voted 'me' out....  Thumbs Down 

jsut to say that I'm not one who would vote for the weight limit so don't think I'd force you out
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Gawd.....don't these 100 sailors go on!
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Originally posted by tick

Gawd.....don't these non-100 sailors go on!

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