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    Posted: 03 May 13 at 11:53am
I once watched the F1 World Stock Car Championships at White City Dog Track near Manchester United football ground. It was international because there was one American out of about 40, in a borrowed car. Most drivers were from the Manchester area. When I questioned one of the organisers about the legitimacy of the "World" status he said, "Well no one stopped them coming".  I think I paid an extra 2s 6d for that.
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Originally posted by pondmonkey

RS700s are popular in the Czech Republic.

To my knowledge 700's are sailed in the UK, France, Holland, Belgium, Luxembourg, Spain, Switzerland, Germany, Czech Republic, Japan, USA, Australia, Denmark, New Zealand, Italy and Dubai. But we're not an International class!
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Originally posted by pondmonkey

RS700s are popular in the Czech Republic.

There has to be an opportunity for a Borat style jape there ...  LOL

I guess they are so cheap 2nd hand that they are affordable in Eastern Europe.

Many/most classes claim long lists of countries that sail their class but usually there is just one or two boats.

The Moth Europeans currently running seems to be limited in nations too ...

Seems you need to be either Olympic or a youth class to make true international penetration.

It would be good to see a Worlds Attendance table similar to the nationals one that detailed boats and nations ... has Y&Y got the data for a worlds table?
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Originally posted by 2547


Originally posted by pondmonkey

RS700s are popular in the Czech Republic.

There has to be an opportunity for a Borat style jape there ...  LOL
I guess they are so cheap 2nd hand that they are affordable in Eastern Europe.
Many/most classes claim long lists of countries that sail their class but usually there is just one or two boats.
The Moth Europeans currently running seems to be limited in nations too ...
Seems you need to be either Olympic or a youth class to make true international penetration.
It would be good to see a Worlds Attendance table similar to the nationals one that detailed boats and nations ... has Y&Y got the data for a worlds table?


Be nice if you could find a second hand RS700 at the moment. Don't know about cheap any more as the demand on the continent is so strong. I just agreed to trade in my boat and it has already been sold into Holland. If anyone knows of any old boats not being used please PM me...
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The 100s are having their first Worlds this year (Como) , 4 different countries entered so far
Australia, Austria, Switzerland, Czech, Germany, Denmark, Spain, France, UK, Ireland, Italy, Netherlands, Sweden & US all have boats
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Originally posted by MrGin

According to ISAF I think you need 7 contries to call it a world championships, otherwise you have to call it an Internationals Championships.

Yes, according to ISAF, the Vago is entitled to hold a Worlds on that basis, when in fact I suspect it is raced only in UK, and even here barely so.

Wayfarers., on the other hand, with over 100 boats at their 'International Championships' had well over 100 boats from at least 5 countries, but were not entitled to use the term 'Worlds'.




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Originally posted by 2547

Originally posted by pondmonkey

RS700s are popular in the Czech Republic.

There has to be an opportunity for a Borat style jape there ...  LOL

Since when was the Czech Republic in or anywhere near Kazakhstan?!  They were both under the Russian yoke 20-odd years ago, but that's about it...  Smile
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It may have something to do with having to pay ISAF, so that you can use the word "World" at a sailing championship, i will find out this weekend as I dont know the full story.
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Originally posted by MrGin

It may have something to do with having to pay ISAF, so that you can use the word "World" at a sailing championship,

No, the situation is only ISAF International and Recognised Classes are allowed World Champs.
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Originally posted by Ian29937

Originally posted by pondmonkey

RS700s are popular in the Czech Republic.

To my knowledge 700's are sailed in the UK, France, Holland, Belgium, Luxembourg, Spain, Switzerland, Germany, Czech Republic, Japan, USA, Australia, Denmark, New Zealand, Italy and Dubai. But we're not an International class!


What with there being quite a few on the Island Republic of Hayling, I'm surprised there's any left for England.

How many of those countries have ever had a class race for RS700's?

And why exactly has the RS400 never sold abroad very well?
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