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    Posted: 05 Apr 13 at 8:52am
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 I think you'll find that ultimately dark matter will explain spinnaker lift, tidal effects and why boats are faster on port! Especially if there is a 27% difference.  Geek
 
 
...hmmm, "dark matter"
 
  • does it answer the question of why assy kites lift the bow? 
  • why Phantom PY never seems correct during the SJ Winter Series, but seems to attract very little complaint the rest of the time?
  • does it explain why "forum wind" is 10-20knts higher than actual?
  • was the V-twin actually fast?
  • is the RS100 actually impossible to get into after a capsize?
.... it could explain a great deal and enlighten this whole forum, never mind this thread
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Originally posted by Telltale

 I think you'll find that ultimately dark matter will explain spinnaker lift, tidal effects and why boats are faster on port! Especially if there is a 27% difference.  Geek

 
 
...hmmm, "dark matter"
 
  • does it answer the question of why assy kites lift the bow? 
  • why Phantom PY never seems correct during the SJ Winter Series, but seems to attract very little complaint the rest of the time?
  • does it explain why "forum wind" is 10-20knts higher than actual?
  • was the V-twin actually fast?
  • is the RS100 actually impossible to get into after a capsize?
.... it could explain a great deal and enlighten this whole forum, never mind this thread


Is dark matter what iGRF has between his ears ??
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Originally posted by boatbasher

Originally posted by getafix


Originally posted by Telltale

 I think you'll find that ultimately dark matter will explain spinnaker lift, tidal effects and why boats are faster on port! Especially if there is a 27% difference.  Geek

 
 
...hmmm, "dark matter"
 
  • does it answer the question of why assy kites lift the bow? 
  • why Phantom PY never seems correct during the SJ Winter Series, but seems to attract very little complaint the rest of the time?
  • does it explain why "forum wind" is 10-20knts higher than actual?
  • was the V-twin actually fast?
  • is the RS100 actually impossible to get into after a capsize?
.... it could explain a great deal and enlighten this whole forum, never mind this thread


Is dark matter what iGRF has between his ears ??

no, but it is between his legs if you had to suffer the unpleasantness of his split arse wetsuit at the FOM!
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Originally posted by getafix

 
 
...hmmm, "dark matter"
 
  • is the RS100 actually impossible to get into after a capsize?
.... it could explain a great deal and enlighten this whole forum, never mind this thread

Only if you are grumph

Getting in once standing on the plate is easy

If righting from inverted, make sure you are on top of the plate once the rig is horizontal. Then see above.

To be fair, the righting lines are key - I re-rigged mine slightly. The standard fit-out is elastic only to the back which is not ideal, but it's easy enough to rectify that.

What GRF needed from that dark matter for his 100 sailing, apart from anything else, was an extra foot of height and couple of stone in mass
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Originally posted by fab100

What GRF needed from that dark matter for his 100 sailing, apart from anything else, was an extra foot of height and couple of stone in mass
Which to be fair was one of his (and my) complaints: there are no fast singlehanders for lightweights with or without kites that don't require lots of dedicated training just to keep the right way up (vide IC & Moth).
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Originally posted by Medway Maniac

Originally posted by fab100

What GRF needed from that dark matter for his 100 sailing, apart from anything else, was an extra foot of height and couple of stone in mass
Which to be fair was one of his (and my) complaints: there are no fast singlehanders for lightweights with or without kites that don't require lots of dedicated training just to keep the right way up (vide IC & Moth).

Out of curiousity, is n't that what the K1 was designed for? But of course the wiki-guru would not have anything to do with that because it compensates for crew weight and leverage with a keel. The one that came to our place for a demo didn't half shift

I acknowledge the launching issues of course
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Originally posted by fab100

Originally posted by getafix

 
 
...hmmm, "dark matter"
 
  • is the RS100 actually impossible to get into after a capsize?
.... it could explain a great deal and enlighten this whole forum, never mind this thread

Only if you are grumph

Getting in once standing on the plate is easy

If righting from inverted, make sure you are on top of the plate once the rig is horizontal. Then see above.

To be fair, the righting lines are key - I re-rigged mine slightly. The standard fit-out is elastic only to the back which is not ideal, but it's easy enough to rectify that.

What GRF needed from that dark matter for his 100 sailing, apart from anything else, was an extra foot of height and couple of stone in mass
 
'trip line' on the kite halyard doesn't hurt either, not possible to reach from the plate when the 100 is on it's side and cold+wet+slow if you dive in to get to it!
 
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Since this is a wiki, the key to getting back in that RS100 in a strong breeze and waves, is to submerge the rig upwind, which gives you enough time to get on the plate without having the whole lot come back on top of you. If you do a windward righting and dive into the bottom of the boat as it comes up, you can do it unaided by rescue craft, but it's still sketchy.

But as I said on the sail thread neither of it's rigs are a light fellas friend, even the experienced dinghy sailor I sold it to an ex MPS helm didn't see the season out with it and I think is flirting with Foiling Moths as an easier to sail option for light folk. (The only really fast option for the lighter helm but you need a more friendly beach than the one I operate off). It does get to something that you have to look at those stilt things though, there is an easy fast boat for light folk, trouble is we can't lift it and if it falls over there is not a snowballs chance in hell of getting it back up again, and it's got a bloody great hole in it.

So we'll have to wait for V3...

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didn't RS bring out a children's rig for the RS100 - a 7.4 or something?  Surely you could cope with that roachless wonder?

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