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    Posted: 30 Jan 13 at 4:26pm
Originally posted by winging it


Originally posted by mikeriley1960



 
Best all race against them on the water in the true sailing spirt and sportsmanship like most of these young sailors do each weekend as they may just be an olympical sailor in a few years.
 
keep sailing
 
 
The thing is Dad, there's a large number of us on here that have been there and done that, and have a very large collection of t shirts to prove it.  Some of us even kept going when the bank of mum and dad ran dry, and well before the injection of lottery funding that meant swanky jackets and stuff showing how great we were.  We only stopped when we realised we were never going to be 'olympical' (is that a new word?) and now, actually, many of us spend our days and dollars doing what you do.  I think that gives us the right to be cynical and yes, sometimes a little short sighted, but at least we're still interested and still getting out and afloat rather than just watching and judging.


Nessa, a fair comment from some one who has been there and done it, you probably have a more knowledge from your 470 days with Vronny, than most that post here.... Just keep getting the young 'uns interested, and that is the best reward you can get, far better than an Olympic medal!!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Jan 13 at 5:27pm
Originally posted by rogerd

My Nephew and Neice are both doing squad stuff. Good mannered, and generally nice. My brother and his wife spend most weekends ferrying them about, normally in different directions as one is in toppers and the other in 420s. The children do it because they enjoy it and their parents do it because they chose to.
I would not describe either my brother or his wife as pushy, just prepared to support them whilst they still enjoy themselve. My niece is gutted as she has just broken her ankle in a snowball fight so will be missing out on the qualifiers etc.
I think it is a big generalisation to put all these parents as pushy and funding little Johny. My brother choses to spend his money on his children, not fancy cars and holidays.

Give them a break.  Its the good old british way to knock anything or anyone who might be getting successful.

The deal is that the parents will support them for as long as they enjoy it and as long as my brother can fund it.

I wish I had had those opportunities when I was younger.


Agree with all of this.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Jan 13 at 5:32pm
Originally posted by rogerd

My Nephew and Neice are both doing squad stuff. Good mannered, and generally nice. My brother and his wife spend most weekends ferrying them about, normally in different directions as one is in toppers and the other in 420s. The children do it because they enjoy it and their parents do it because they chose to.
I would not describe either my brother or his wife as pushy, just prepared to support them whilst they still enjoy themselve. My niece is gutted as she has just broken her ankle in a snowball fight so will be missing out on the qualifiers etc.
I think it is a big generalisation to put all these parents as pushy and funding little Johny. My brother choses to spend his money on his children, not fancy cars and holidays.
Give them a break.  Its the good old british way to knock anything or anyone who might be getting successful.
The deal is that the parents will support them for as long as they enjoy it and as long as my brother can fund it.
I wish I had had those opportunities when I was younger.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Jan 13 at 6:00pm
Roger you know full well I am a stout defender of the squad system, spend stupid amounts of me free time nurturing them and even like some squad parents.  That's why I'm cross when Dad comes in here mouthing off and undoing all my good work!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Jan 13 at 6:37pm
Originally posted by 2547

There was a guy at our club who thought he was going to the Olympics in a Laser, his mum & dad thought so too ... it's great to have dreams but in this case this was pure fantasy.

Ah, what ever happened to Russell?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Jan 13 at 8:03pm
Well Mike seems to have missed the basic rule of forum life - don't re-invigorate a thread which brings you bad press!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Jan 13 at 7:36am
Is Dad not a little bit entitled to come in here with something of an attitude?
 
People - who have never even seen his son's or his mates boat - have accused him/them of cheating. People have been calling for bans, protests and all sorts.
 
When actually noone has done anything wrong.
 
Quite a few people in this thread should be apologising.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Jan 13 at 8:10am
Nope - someone made an honest but wrong enquiry about what appeared to them to be a modification

There followed a debate about non class rules compliant boats in winter handicap racing.

There followed an over-reaction.

The latest inflammatory post just draws attention to something best forgotten.
But hey - I'll bump it gain. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Jan 13 at 8:13am
Da yoof went to the BM, got told his boat - L3000 - was 'crap' by a 420 dad, and told he should buy a 420!  All well and good, but the 3000 is da yoof's pride and joy, all he could afford and he loves it.  Dads can and will have attitude, but they need to know where to use it.

I don't think Richard accused them of cheating, I think worse invective was levelled elsewhere, perhaps justifiably.  I'm actually impressed Dad came in and stood up to us all and defended the honour of his kids and their class. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Jan 13 at 8:30am
I would have been more impressed if Dad's posts had not been rude / arrogant/ overbearing in tone
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