420 winged rudder

Originally posted by sargesail No it was always cheating and the SJ just exposed it.

No it was always cheating and the SJ just exposed it.

Originally posted by JimC Originally posted by Rupert In this case, the consequences of not getting permission are not being allowed to sail, and the concequences of not getting forgiveness is having your result expunged. Actually I'd say that the consequences of getting permission are going to be no worse than a handicap hit, whereas worst possible cause for not getting permission, should it found to be really blatant cheating (unlikely in most cases), is a ban from racing for a year or three.

Why would entering as a boat that complies to a known set of rules then sticking a  sail on it that's intended to be faster not be really blatant cheating?

Although AFAIK, the letter of the RS class rules is you can use anything that RS supplies you as a mainsail.

Originally posted by Dougaldog Wow, it is just as well the weather is S*** today, else I'd have wasted my time indoors when I could have been outside. But no, instead I spent the time looking through all the rule books trying to find the bits where it says that winter handicap events are 'fun' and that the RRS no longer apply. Nor, despite a very close search of the SIs, could I find it written anywhere that you could 'run what you brung' - in other words, class legal applies to other people...... D

My understanding of 'run wot you brung' is that it implies travelling to the event in/on the vehicle you compete in, which would add something to sailing events....

However, these spats over class rules are not new, maybe the event organisers should have a policy and make it clear in the NoR. It's good to see people trying things out, it's good to showcase ideas to other classes, and part of the popularity of these events is about racing against whatever turns up.
Perhaps a pusuit race is not ideal, because you can't race the new and old 800 mains head to head if the new one is given a notional PY penalty.
If experimental deviations are not welcome at these events, then there is maybe a market for a few events where they are?
But let's have it all out in the open.

Originally posted by Stevie_GTI The development 800 mainsail was used by 2 boats at the BM, one of which was beaten by a standard 800 mainsail in what was a very tight race between the three boats. Development is still ongoing on the new sail, a vote will follow on whether to introduce it or not.