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Daniel Holman
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Topic: 420 winged rudder Posted: 19 Jan 13 at 10:52am |
Yep there are mods and there are mods, an rs400 kite on a bosun is quite a mod!
Anyhow, these are fun events and sure winning has some kudos, but worrying about what somebody is doing to their boat further down the pack is missing the point a bit.
I suspect that if you threw the book at a lot of boats at these events they'd fall over on some technicality.
Who checks the rack settings on the 800s?
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Andymac
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Posted: 19 Jan 13 at 10:23am |
Originally posted by Lukepiewalker
The point is, as with just about everything else, you should ask first, then you avoid embarrasement.
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Agreed, that is indeed the crux of the matter. In all probability, the 'trial' 800 sails, the 420 wing rudders? and indeed the '2011' Merlin sails would have been given the same PY as their class counterparts, but it is the organisers of the event's perogative to decide and for no one else to presume. A declaration beforehand is the only way of avoiding any controversy. Bear in mind, some years ago a very well sailed Bosun was DSQ'd from a high placing in the BM, because it was using an assymetric kite (which I believe at the time had tacit agreement by the class to trial), which had not been declared to the race organisation.
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Lukepiewalker
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Posted: 19 Jan 13 at 9:49am |
The class association can give dispensation in their own events, not other peoples. Otherwise I'm asking the topper class for dispensation to sail a foiling moth off their handicap next year... The event organisers can give dispensation. The point is, as with just about everything else, you should ask first, then you avoid embarrasement.
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Posted: 18 Jan 13 at 11:40pm |
Now what was that story about a merlin at some event or other that was 'testing' some fancy sailcloth..
If you have a non-std boat and sailing in a hcap event, surely you have to declare on entry, so that you can be issued with a non std hcap. Imagine a solo that 'hoists the whomper' when they've rounded the windward makr...
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Posted: 18 Jan 13 at 9:39pm |
Originally posted by robin34024
if the class association had given a dispensation ... legal |
Debatable, because the dispensation is very limited. In any case the race office should be notified, because its very easy to imagine them wishing to make a handicap change. A more extreme example was when the Enterprise association issued a dispensation allowing pole kites for handicap events only. It is (or was) thus quite legal to have a pole kite on your Enterprise for the BM, but you sure as **** wouldn't expect or be given the same handicap.
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Posted: 18 Jan 13 at 9:09pm |
despite being in no way involved, if the class association had given a dispensation for the trial set, then essentially, aren't they are class legal..?
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Posted: 18 Jan 13 at 8:52pm |
Originally posted by SoggyBadger
Originally posted by hollandsd
As the testing is part of the class associations changes then I feel that the sails would classify as being class legal at that point.
Dan
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Rubbish.
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Excuse me but its only an opinion, if I were racing against them and the class association had provided the sails to be trialled and with the current ethos of the new sails I would have no issues what so ever with them beating me. Dan
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Posted: 18 Jan 13 at 8:02pm |
Originally posted by hollandsd
As the testing is part of the class associations changes then I feel that the sails would classify as being class legal at that point.
Dan
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Rubbish.
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Best wishes from deep in the woods
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Posted: 18 Jan 13 at 7:53pm |
Really.
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Posted: 18 Jan 13 at 7:41pm |
As the testing is part of the class associations changes then I feel that the sails would classify as being class legal at that point.
Dan
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