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    Posted: 19 Jan 13 at 10:52am
Yep there are mods and there are mods, an rs400 kite on a bosun is quite a mod!
Anyhow, these are fun events and sure winning has some kudos, but worrying about what somebody is doing to their boat further down the pack is missing the point a bit.
I suspect that if you threw the book at a lot of boats at these events they'd fall over on some technicality.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Jan 13 at 10:23am
Originally posted by Lukepiewalker

The point is, as with just about everything else, you should ask first, then you avoid embarrasement.
 
Agreed, that is indeed the crux of the matter.
In all probability, the 'trial' 800 sails, the 420 wing rudders? and indeed the '2011' Merlin sails would have been given the same PY as their class counterparts, but it is the organisers of the event's perogative to decide and for no one else to presume. A declaration beforehand is the only way of avoiding any controversy.
Bear in mind, some years ago a very well sailed Bosun was DSQ'd from a high placing in the BM, because it was using an assymetric kite (which I believe at the time had tacit agreement by the class to trial), which had not been declared to the race organisation. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Jan 13 at 9:49am
The class association can give dispensation in their own events, not other peoples. Otherwise I'm asking the topper class for dispensation to sail a foiling moth off their handicap next year...
The event organisers can give dispensation. The point is, as with just about everything else, you should ask first, then you avoid embarrasement.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jan 13 at 11:40pm
Now what was that story about a merlin at some event or other that was 'testing' some fancy sailcloth..

If you have a non-std boat and sailing in a hcap event, surely you have to declare on entry, so that you can be issued with a non std hcap. Imagine a solo that 'hoists the whomper' when they've rounded the windward makr...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jan 13 at 9:39pm
Originally posted by robin34024

if the class association had given a dispensation ... legal  

Debatable, because the dispensation is very limited. In any case the race office should be notified, because its very easy to imagine them wishing to make a handicap change. A more extreme example was when the Enterprise association issued a dispensation allowing pole kites for handicap events only. It is (or was) thus quite legal to have a pole kite on your Enterprise for the BM, but you sure as **** wouldn't expect or be given the same handicap.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jan 13 at 9:09pm
despite being in no way involved, if the class association had given a dispensation for the trial set,  then essentially, aren't they are class legal..?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jan 13 at 8:52pm
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Originally posted by hollandsd

As the testing is part of the class associations changes then I feel that the sails would classify as being class legal at that point.

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Rubbish.


Excuse me but its only an opinion, if I were racing against them and the class association had provided the sails to be trialled and with the current ethos of the new sails I would have no issues what so ever with them beating me.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jan 13 at 8:02pm
Originally posted by hollandsd

As the testing is part of the class associations changes then I feel that the sails would classify as being class legal at that point.

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Rubbish.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jan 13 at 7:53pm
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jan 13 at 7:41pm
As the testing is part of the class associations changes then I feel that the sails would classify as being class legal at that point.

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