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    Posted: 18 Jan 13 at 12:01am
Originally posted by Ian29937

Originally posted by Ruscoe

James, I got to say i think you are out of order mate.  There are kids that post here and this is the second time within a month you have been offensive.  Its such a shame as your posts are great.  You dont need to appologise about their content just the language and terms you use to deliver some of your messages.  I am guessing you are not a parent yet and a younger chap, but think for a second how you would feel if your 14 year old who was mad keen on sailing felt if they stumbled across your posts?  its not about taking things in and out of context, its about how things read. 
 
So please keep posting but please think about your audiance!
 
Nessa, please dont stop posting.  Your contribution to this forum has been grat over the last few years and much valued by forumites and newbies alike.
 
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+ 2 please stay nessa, your posts are always well thought out and informative and help to balance out the ill informed trolling that passes for fact on this forum sometimes.


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Originally posted by ex laser

 

ill informed trolling 


contradiction there sir... how does someone who is alleged to be 'ill-informed' have the wherewithal to craft a troll?  Surely the former precludes the latter?
 




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Originally posted by pondmonkey

Originally posted by ex laser

 

ill informed trolling 


contradiction there sir... how does someone who is alleged to be 'ill-informed' have the wherewithal to craft a troll?  Surely the former precludes the latter?
 


 
Perhaps you've just proved that the troll merely has to think they are informed.
 
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Originally posted by GarethT

Originally posted by pondmonkey

Originally posted by ex laser

 

ill informed trolling 


contradiction there sir... how does someone who is alleged to be 'ill-informed' have the wherewithal to craft a troll?  Surely the former precludes the latter?
 


 
Perhaps you've just proved that the troll merely has to think they are informed.
 
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But then surely without genuinely being informed, the reaction to trolling would not occur?  In order for something to be classed as trolling, then it needs to achieve the reaction from the intended target- even if passive and not ultimately responded to?   That is why we can say 'don't feed the troll'... it's a acceptance that trolling has occurred, without exacerbating the impact with a response.  Whether responded to or not, the troll MUST possess enough information, vis-a-vis s/he is informed enough to concoct the troll in the first place.  

Besides being 'informed' is the manifestation of holding information, (shall we call it 'truth' to maintain the facade of this metaphysical tangent?) Truth is rarely binary- it's linear with half truths, often riddled with exceptions and contradictions in real world examples.  Take the 'define a skiff' debate, or whether 'Lasers are sh*t?'... there is no clear-cut truth, just an overwhelming sense of individualised interpretations, which in themselves, are all bona-fide 'truths' that can be utilised in trolling - but only if you are equally informed that someone else holds a differing interpretation from yourself.  Therefore I think it's fair to say, you cannot be both a troll and ill-informed... they are preclusive by their very definitions.

(the reason for this philosophical off-topic, to get Nessa to chip in...)


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I'm sure you can be an ill informed troll - you could hide under a bridge that no billy goats go over, for instance.
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Originally posted by Rupert

I'm sure you can be an ill informed troll - you could hide under a bridge that no billy goats go over, for instance.

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Originally posted by pondmonkey

Originally posted by Rupert

I'm sure you can be an ill informed troll - you could hide under a bridge that no billy goats go over, for instance.

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james,i dont mind being proved wrong as long as we get nessa back!!!! Smile

people like her and rupert provide well thought out views and information in a calm way.
as opposed most people ( me included ) who just some on the forum and shout!
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Now back on track who beacuse Rs have taken over the production of the boat will now think more about buying one.??????
I have mine already so i dont count
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Now back on track who beacuse Rs have taken over the production of the boat will now think more about buying one.??????
I have mine already so i dont count
 
Every one of the hotshot's who bought older lighter boats?
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