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pondmonkey
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Topic: Ex-laser 2000, now '2000'Posted: 16 Jan 13 at 2:05pm |
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interesting use of the word 'assimilated' Rupert... I'm sure RS would be more than aware not come across as 'the Borg' with this.
Personally having RS back it adds gravitas and a sense of future proofing that the class lacked previously, however not everyone would share that view, so a little independent branding should satisfy everyone.
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Rupert
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Posted: 16 Jan 13 at 1:53pm |
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Ian29937
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Posted: 16 Jan 13 at 12:14pm |
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RS are on facebook offering to sell me one.... and they are still the same people in the same building. It's a branding thing, nothing more. Edited by Ian29937 - 16 Jan 13 at 12:15pm |
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jeffers
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Posted: 16 Jan 13 at 12:13pm |
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Correct but if RS were going to be building and marketing all the blurb would say RS rather than LDC Racing....and important distinction I feel.....
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Ian29937
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Posted: 16 Jan 13 at 12:06pm |
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Two brands, same company..
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Hornet
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Posted: 16 Jan 13 at 12:01pm |
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Everyone keeps saying the 2k would suit the sprint event, whilst its a brilliant event i think the 2k on average is too slow and would slow down the sprint idea of rolling fleet starts, that is one of the strongest appeals of the event that it is quick fire racing with a number of classes in the RS range with not much hanging about bobbing on the start line,
the last two years Rutland have really got this event ticking and do a superb job of race management. Personal opinion is that the 2k would it be to added would take the gloss off the event!!!!
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Rupert
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Posted: 16 Jan 13 at 11:54am |
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There is a detail in all this that it is LDC who have taken over production, not RS. It appears that there is a difference between the 2, and is one reason why the boat would never be the RS2000.
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Ian29937
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Posted: 16 Jan 13 at 11:50am |
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..and the Elves are there to take direction from the class ctte's, not the other way round. You have a sailor led association without all the boring admin. And although RS do provide some financial support as well as the physical event support, it is by no means critical to the association which remains independant. Please don't be mistaken in thinking the RS Association isn't led by it's members. Ian
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pondmonkey
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Posted: 16 Jan 13 at 10:23am |
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erm, pay for the elves personally... we shouldn't paint a completely commercial picture of the RS Class Association. There is a lot of in kind support from the sailors and a good chunk of financial and physical support from RS themselves (as you'd expect of course, one of their USPs is actually giving a sh*t once they've sold you a boat). The 'elves' are there to ensure the devil in the detail doesn't get forgotten... hence why you'll see good photographers at most events, events at clubs that would otherwise be reluctant to host and above all, the smooth administration of one of the best amateur dinghy racing programmes across the world. I'd say they do a blinding job, it can't be easy relying on volunteer support and managing the expectations of all those members. However if the 2k guys want to see how things pan out, fair enough... but do look at the end of season champs and sprint events, the boat would be great for these events and I'd imagine most RS owners would only be too glad to welcome the 2k'ers into the fold.
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AlanH
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Posted: 16 Jan 13 at 10:08am |
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The L2000 assoc is one of the very best in the country, and I advise them to stay just as they are. If you are successful don't change the formula. The L2000s lead, manage, and take responsibility for their single class. They provide great value for money as well as effectively running their class.
Contrast that with what Ian above says of the RS Assn. "Admin done by paid elves." Which model would you prefer for your class? |
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