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ChrisJ
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Topic: Ex-laser 2000, now '2000'Posted: 13 Jan 13 at 8:01pm |
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Which all takes skill, practise and lots of communication between helm and crew: sounds like an ideal boat for racing :-)
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sargesail
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Posted: 13 Jan 13 at 7:36pm |
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No - it is pointless - I've experimented....you're quicker running with windward heel. With the kite shape that projects the kite to windward and puts the CoE in the right place and away you zoom.
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ChrisJ
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Posted: 13 Jan 13 at 7:22pm |
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2000 has a single line launching system for the kite. The pole goes straight out forwards.
But the "running deep" is more a function of the kite shape than the wing Wang by a foot or two. Phil Morrison, the designer of the 2000, was part of the decision to move to RS. AND if you want to check on the quality of racing, take a look at the Endeavour Trophy this year :-) |
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Posted: 13 Jan 13 at 6:50pm |
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It works so well on the 200 that they banned it for class racing. Am I correct in saying the L2k does not have a wing-wang system? |
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Posted: 13 Jan 13 at 6:47pm |
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Not sure about goosewinging, but in answer to the earlier question - they are f**king amazing downwind or reaching in a big blow
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sargesail
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Posted: 13 Jan 13 at 6:45pm |
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Consistently top 5 at the Nats with 24-25 stone. Top 10 with a bit more. So meets your needs.
The 2K has an Assym that lets you run very deep....the jib will flop across with the kite drawing efficiently....so no need to goosewing (but I don't recall the Class rules banning it - just never come up as it's pointless). Matt
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Posted: 13 Jan 13 at 6:45pm |
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I would say that rs400's are perhaps not as tippy as you think? If your wife is not going to want to sail in strong winds anyway, you might be better with a boat that goes well in lighter conditions? The L2K seems to carry weight fairly well though. Assuming you are intending to race, I would consider what you will be racing against. Slower asymmetric boats can be frustrating to race against symmetric kites IMHO, as they reach from side to side while the Wayfarer runs straight to the mark. But if there are like-minded people sailing the same boat, it becomes tactical fun. But in your position a few years ago, I bought a 400, did some of the excellent class coaching and my only regret is not buying one sooner. I think we had 10 swims in our first year, in about 70 races? |
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Posted: 13 Jan 13 at 6:29pm |
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2 normal sized people would be OK in it - more than a 200, certainly, but too much weight and the chines appear to get stuck in the water in light winds. I've done OK in borrowed boats with 23 or 24 stone in the boat.
I think I'd own one but for the annoyance of not being able to DDW with the kite up - bad enough having to tack upwind, but at least that is brought on by nature, not design. Does the class ban goosewinging the kite? |
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Posted: 13 Jan 13 at 6:20pm |
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What's a suitable crew weight for club racing an L2K? I'm hoping to get the wife interested in sailing this year, we're too heavy for a 200 and a 400 would be too tippy for us. An L2K looks like a suitable platform but when I read that it's under-canvassed, the PY isn't exactly lightening fast and it's a bit heavy then it makes me wonder if it would be suitable.
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Rupert
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Posted: 13 Jan 13 at 6:02pm |
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Are LPE still making the Stratos?
The 2000 would appear to fit in very well with the RS Venture - the feel of sailing the boats was very similar, enough to make you wonder whether such family similarity should exist between 2 rival makers. I guess now it doesn't! |
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