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    Posted: 19 Jan 12 at 10:30am
TW do have some odd rules- the "full wetsuit or drysuit during winter" one being especially wrongheaded given layer systems/longjohns and seperate tops etc (plus mental Laser sailors who relish having exposed skin in frosty weather)
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Originally posted by alstorer

TW do have some odd rules-  

Hmm we might have had something to do with that, back in the day when it seemed the entire dinghy establishment was trying to prevent the b**tard child that was boardsailing from eating its youth, Thames Water banned it from their reservoirs with accusations of immersion causing pollution, of course no dingy waller would ever pee in the scuppers of his Merlin, so we countered with the then revolutionary Typhoon and LDC copy, dry suits (death bags as they quickly became known to the more irreverent), but with the latex socks, even if you did pee in the suit it couldn't come out, unless you performed a submersible hand stand which could theoretically prove fatal and so it was we got on the London res's.

Then following the acceptance it wasn't long before it got pointed out that actually dinghyists spent as much if not more time in the water than the board sailors so it became de rigeur for all around 1980.
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but the full-suit rule is (usually) only start October- end of April


Still wish someone from TW had turned up at the Cherub/B14 inlands in October and tried to enforce that rule. Wonder how polluting a dead TW official on the bottom of the reservoir would be?

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I think that much "sports" attire became popular when it became fashionable and/or sexy. I remember cycling round Herne Hill cycle track (velodrome?) with my trousers tucked in my socks and not feeling out of place. Sailing gear was oilskins, wooly jumpers and kapok lifejackets. A far cry from all those Oppy sailors resplendent in Zhik. Do they call it "technical clothing" or "engineered" these days? I am fortunate because I have the boys cast offs and good old Decathlon.
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Sorry for getting back on-topic, but hey look what Y&Y lobbed at my facebook:

http://www.yachtsandyachting.co.uk/sailing-techniques/what-to-do-if-your-boat-is-over-powered/

I don't think Peter Barton has any problems being overpowered in the X1 he is helming!
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Incredible race in Hamburg last weekend with ChrisI and the X1 - We had to change crew every round, 7 times in all. Highly recommended. We almost won it by 5 mins! Don't worry video is less than 3 mins. Sunshine shorts and T-shirt too.



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Hi
Im just updating our results sheet with new boats and if we had a X1 or X0 come to L&L whats the PY atm?

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Hi Alex,

Looks like you've had a very successful start to your winter series and I hope at some stage an X1 or an X0 will get along to L&L and join in the fun.

The X1 has been fairly extensively tested at Queen Mary SC and assessed by Andrew Craig (handicapper of the Bloody Mary) as the same as an RS400 (this of course is an average, and one would expect the X1 to be slightly faster in lighter winds while the RS400 will be faster in stronger winds - do have a chat with Redders from the Forumites Open meeting who sails an RS400 and has experience against the X1, and I think he will confirm this).

We have not done so much testing in the smaller rigged X0 - but Andrew's assessment is around 3% slower.
We have just got back this weekend from a regatta in Germany where we were given the same (German yardstick) handicap as a 470 - whose most recent PY was I think 973. We had predominantly very light winds which definitely favoured us, luckily being able to discard the one heavier wind race...... see http://www.bsc-hamburg.de/static/regatta/ergebnisse/2012/letzte_helden_yardstick.htm
Once this smaller rig is tried out in a whole range of wind speeds, I suspect that the handicap will end up very slightly higher.

So the short answer to your question is, for starters:
X1 - 948
X0 - 978

Being responsible for this X0/X1 project, though, I have to declare my commercial interest in this, and also the fact of course that you should be adjusting all PYs for your particular waters anyway, if you believe appropriate (.... I sail at London Corinthian on the heavily tidal Thames mostly against Lasers and Enterprises, and with tide making such a huge difference, we are already adjusting the X1's 948 PY down to 900).

Are you making many adjustments to PYs at L&L, at the mo?
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Hi Chris,
Thanks for that, I’ll add them to the list. Would be great to see the X1/X0 in the flesh (and to have a go ) Very welcome to join us at L&L, plenty of boats to race against. I think it would do very well on our water!
Yes we started making adjustments in Autumn this year and it seems to be going well. (Our 400 is 939) Other classes have had minor changes (one bad tack in time) apart from the Topper where we’ve added 30pts.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote x1testpilot Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jan 13 at 11:21pm
Should be 2 of us in X1s at the Bloody Mary - Forecast looks a tad windy for us, though I think we will miss having snow!
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