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    Posted: 06 Jan 13 at 8:31pm
So I was out today in light winds and was sruggling too "pop" the top two battens on my RS200 and wondered if anyone had any techniques to help in the lighter stuff as they seem to be harder to "pop"
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- come out of a roll tack
- ease the main slightly 
- as you bring the boat back flat sheet in hard. 
Not sure if what I've just makes any sense. :) 

Had issues at Minorca getting the top batten to pop in light airs... could be an RS 'thing'...
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I think it's an RS thing to be honest. My 500 does this a lot, it's a right pain. The way I solved it was to ease the main as you go into the tack, let the boat roll on top of you (standard roll tack to be honest) and then as you jump up to hike the boat flat, pump the main really hard. Make sure you do the hiking and pumping at the same time. I found that I had to tighten up the bridle a couple of centimeters so I can get a bit more leech tension when I pump. Not sure how the main is set up on a 200 but on a 500 you can tighten and loosen the battens with a key. Might be worth a go (although you've probably already tried)

Not entirely sure if this is class legal but we ended up making a light weather batten for really windless days. It's just like a normal batten but the end of it is tapered so it flexes more easily. If you genuinely can't get them to pop normally then this might help.
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When I used to sail a 200, before it sank/damaged :) I had issues like this quite a lot but due to me being so light at the time (combined crew weight 18 stone!) half the battens wouldn't pop anyway!

Seems it is an RS thing, though never had this issue on the 100 :) 
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Chaps,

Not an RS thing. Before you tack just put a bit of cunningham on and bobs your uncle. The main should be flicked as you push up to the next time.

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Try loosening the batten tension in the top batten/s and then they will pop easier.
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Technique and practice...People who have it exactly sorted seem to be able to get the most amazingly tight battens across. I don't altogether have it down, but a lot of it seems to be about timing a little flick on the mainsheet at exactly the right point as the other battens are coming over.

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It's a pretty agricultural 'last resort' method, used only when the roll tack didn't pop the top couple, but: grab the cunningham and yank down hard and quickly.
 
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Yank down the cunningham hard, but mind your tack,tick. Or pump the jibing strop a couple of times. 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote fleaberto Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Jan 13 at 11:55am
I think most battened sails suffer similar issues - especially if that battens are particularly stiff.
Top batten on my Lightning sail often sticks in the light stuff, as did all of them on my Dart15 when I had that. My EPS also does the same. Solution? - brute force :-) ....just as you're coming out of a tack, tension the mainsheet and give it a good snap - all at the same time.
I can't roll the EPS as much as the Lightning, so demands a much more fierce pull. 
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