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rodney 
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 Topic: Going dead downwindPosted: 28 Nov 12 at 4:47pm |
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Just sail the angles, look for the pressure and forget about by the lee
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Rodney Cobb
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jeffers
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Posted: 28 Nov 12 at 9:15am |
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It is allowed in the class rules and, for those that run any kind of tension on the rig, letting the forestay off was an option. I fitted one then took it off when I realised playing the angles was far more effective in any breeze.
That was after my time but the theory is that as you run so little tension having a spreader that moves will allow the boom to go out further. on a boat like a Solo where the shrouds have practically no tension on them at all you will probably get a similar effect. I know the people at Hunts in Solos can get their booms out a long way (also helped by having that Shock cord that attaches at the kicker mount on the boom).
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Paul
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pondmonkey
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Posted: 27 Nov 12 at 8:38pm |
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cheers Jon
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Jon Emmett
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Posted: 27 Nov 12 at 8:06pm |
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Sailing by the lee only seems to be truly effected in unstayed boats.
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Neptune
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Posted: 27 Nov 12 at 4:54pm |
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surely on a blaze you have "swinging spreaders" so that you can get the boom out further and run deeper
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Musto Skiff and Solo sailor
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Kev M
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Posted: 27 Nov 12 at 4:38pm |
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Did you have an adjustable forestay on your Blaze?
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jeffers
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Posted: 27 Nov 12 at 1:58pm |
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About the only thing you can do in a stayed boat is let the kicker right off (allowing the boom to rise) and let the forestay tension off (if you have an adjustable forestay). this allows the sail to twist off and get right out.
This technique works well in a Blaze if the run is short. However if the run is of a decent length you are much better of playing the angles, especially if you can get the boat planing. It also works well in a Phantom so you may find you get some success with the Supernova. As the rig is fully battened you are unlikely to make running by the lee work vs playing the angles offwind.
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Paul
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SoggyBadger
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Posted: 27 Nov 12 at 1:14pm |
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Gybe on the shifts and you won't have a problem. |
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Best wishes from deep in the woods
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MattHarris
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Posted: 27 Nov 12 at 1:03pm |
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Hi Fraggle, i've searched through the class forum but can't really find anything beyond the standard reponse of sitting forward - although did find that a bungee a'la solo is class legal so may give this a go. I was just after a bit of an outside opinion, especailly with the solo being popular and having a similar (fully battened stayed rig) rig layout.
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Neptune
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Posted: 27 Nov 12 at 12:49pm |
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i suspect because you can;t square your boom like a laser to sail by a lee your going to have to let a lot of kicker off....i mean lots. Otherwise sail the angles and work your way down wind.
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Musto Skiff and Solo sailor
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