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jeffers 
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 Topic: FOM 2013Posted: 22 Oct 12 at 7:41am |
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Broxbourne will be good for me work and family dependant! The earlier we have a firm date the better so I can open negotiations......
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Paul
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winging it
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Posted: 22 Oct 12 at 9:03am |
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Here's a scenario for you: I am a newbie thinking of buying my first boat. There are a lot of old school woodies at the club so I look into getting one. Plenty on apollo duck, ebay etc. But then I wander into this forum which appears to be the fount of all knowledge, and realise that not only will I be scorned and despised by the cognoscenti for my misguided purchase, but they will also want to burn my boat. I turn instead to all the promises of the modern plastic fantastics but then realise the affordable versions - rotomoulded - are equally despicable. The grp versions are also considered old school, and basically unless I can rise to the dizzy heights of epoxy boats which I don't understand and can't aspire to sailing, because they look scary tippy or fast, plus of course will cost the best part of a year's salary, I will be a pariah in my new sport before I have even started. Despondent I wander the street until I pass a shop selling golf stuff.....
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pondmonkey
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Posted: 22 Oct 12 at 9:49am |
so I buy a new set of golf clubs from Sports Direct, they even sell me their 'own label' caddy bag... it's a third of the cost and the mulberry coloured Pringle 2013 Ryder Cup edition, hand stitched by virgin ladyboys in the Philippines, is hardly going to improve my fledgling game is it? So I arrive at my local golf club, and not being a naive fellow, I appreciate there's some lawn fees to pay. Blow me if the membership 'joining fee' was six grand alone, and then to top it off, I can only afford off peak rates, which are still more than my monthly repayment on my family saloon car. Anyway, sailing was terrible (it was the w@nkers on the Y&Y forum that did it) , so I pony up my 'off peak' fee which I will later find out is really only meant for pensioners and women, (not that women should play golf according to the club president once he's had brandy and babycham or two.) Well I need a stiff drink to get over the cost, so I go to somewhere they call the 19th hole. As I step in the door some monkey in a penguin suit abruptly raises hand-to-face, 'sorry sir, this is members only bar'. I explain politely that I am a new member, and he grunts, looks at my polo shirt (Ralph Lauren, so hardly tatty). 'No T-Shirts' is his reply. I leave the bar un-quenched and look for something as basic as a vending machine. No, not one around. Parched, but still excited about this new sport, I trot off to the driving range to test out my new 1 Wood. I then get met by a group of 'locals' practicing their swing. One steps forwards, a confident fellow at first glance, tall, probably not a bad looking bloke in his prime; ex-Army, maybe a Solicitor, I can't tell until he opens his mouth, but almost certainly the alpha male of this pack. Closer inspection reveals a Fred Perry v-neck, a recent winter-sun tan, a dulled wedding ring and an old Rolex on his left wrist- he looks like an extra from 'Eldorado', but I won't judge, and remind myself to stay open-minded and friendly in these awkward situations. His initial smile morphs into a sneer as he informs me I need to wear proper shoes to play. Passive aggressive t**t, I can't stand people like that. As I turn around I hear his cronies snigger, and one of them, a short fat bald man, even has the audacity to point at my Sports Direct clubs. Looks who's talking chum... So I head back off towards the car park, really quite flabbergasted by the 'welcome' I've received to my new past time. As I'm passing the lake on Hole 3 I notice a twig, bobbing in water, the ripples running up each side of it in perfect symmetry. It floats, it looks happy there, not a care in the world. Twigs don't have emotion you fool, but is that what sailing's like I wonder? I look at the clubs, and in a flash I pick them up by the wheels and hurl them into the lake. The twig bobs some more, it doesn't sink... seaworthy little sod. It's winking at me, laughing and excited, encouraging me to reach down and pick it up. So I pull up the sleeve of my jacket, lean over the edge of the lake and fish it out. People are starring at me now, they think I'm a mad. F*ck them, their lawn fees and their lack of f*ckin' imagination when it comes to retirement and free time. Me and the twig return to the car and the first thing I do is report my credit card stolen. I'm informed that my card has been used to make a large purchase at a 'country club', I feign surprise and the operator immediately cancels the charge. On my way home I see a little sailing club. I look down look at the twig on the passenger seat. Twiggy tells me to pull in and just have a nosey around- what's the harm in it? When I get there I'm surprised that there's all these wooden boats, plastic boats in the dinghy park and a fleet of slow boats are pottering around the lake. They can't be doing more than 10 miles per hour, but they keep darting back and forth, like some crazy game of tactical chess on the water. So that's what Richard Simmonds was going on about... Everyone seems to be having a good time and the first thing someone says to me is 'hello, can I help you?' He buys me a coffee despite my protestation to pay and he introduces me to the 'club sailing secretary'. Lovely lady, not up her own arse at all. And there was me thinking these sailor types were all t**sers. She got into sailing via her kids apparently, I decide it's probably not a great idea to say I'm getting into sailing because of a talking twig that I liberated from a golf complex. She arranges for me to come back and use a club boat tomorrow, no charge, just come along and see if I like it, I can even wear my trainers as long as I don't mind them getting wet and smelly. She offers to 'crew' for me if I want to take out the club 'Graduate'. 'What's a Graduate?' I ask her. 'It's a nice boat' she responds, 'there'll be a few sailing here next year at the Y&Y Forum Open Meeting.'
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maxibuddah
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Posted: 22 Oct 12 at 10:11am |
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What a lovely story James.
Nessa I was taking the Michael out of grf, just I couldn't put one of those stupid smilies at the end to signify such. |
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tickler
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Posted: 22 Oct 12 at 10:20am |
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Pondmonkey..........you obviously stumbled across Combs Sailing Club where men are men, women are women and some are both. A very good post.........however, sailing is still not an egalitarian sport. I am a regular correspondent on this site and have been about a bit. We are all basically middle class and white. The other forum I use is my Mazda site where tattoos are discussed and most photographs of cars that appear have Council Houses as backdrops. Last night apparently one chap in Scotland was fearing for his life because a house down the road had been firebombed! Some one should write a thesis on "Sports and its effect on society....or.....society and its effect on sport".
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pondmonkey
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Posted: 22 Oct 12 at 10:34am |
Thanks Tick- and I'd never claim that it was. I don't think many sports are egalitarian, nor do I subscribe to some notion that sports really should be either. Our choice in past-times play a part in defining who we are and how we are seen by those around us, just like the food we eat, the drinks we choose and the clothes we dress in. However I do believe that access to our sport should not be based on the usual social demographics of class, gender, age, sexual orientation, race etc. and I certainly don't believe that skills, or lack there of, should be a barrier either. I am neither surprised, nor disappointed, when a 'newbie' beats me. All good news, just another person to sail against in the future. The aim of the little ditty was two-fold a) to highlight that the stereotypes of sailors (and the boats we actually sail) aren't exclusive. And maybe to the cost of Golf, that ar**holes are everywhere, everyone has one. It's just up to us whether we expose it or not. And b) more importantly, to highlight the irony of Nessa's post in relation to this thread- a number of the younger (relatively speaking) contributors are talking about bringing 'slow wooden boats' next year rather than their epoxy/carbon rocket ships. Even Graeme and I will turn up with slow unarigs... although we're both tarts and crap with woodwork so need some plastic in there.
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Rupert
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Posted: 22 Oct 12 at 11:45am |
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I'm sure there are many golf clubs where you would get the friendly welcome and cup of coffee, just as there are sailing clubs where you'd be ignored. I'm more sure of the latter than the former, though.
As for the boat burning comments on this thread - if it was the first port of call for someone thinking of sailing, then they would need to be a little bit thick not to notice that the tone of things is banter between people pretending (I think) to be idiots. There have been threads where I'd agree with Nessa entirely - ones where asking specific advice on what boat to sail and where - but recently these have been pretty civilized - GRF learning that slow boats are good for small water, maybe? - but can we really be expected to behave all the time "just in case"? That would be like asking the Mazda owners not to sl*g off Subarus, or to be rude about some butch bloke getting a flower as a tatoo. Maybe Tickler can enlighten us on these points? |
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Black no sugar
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Posted: 22 Oct 12 at 11:55am |
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Lovely story, pondmonkey. I'm glad you made a friend at last.
All my love to Twiggy, xx
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rodney
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Posted: 22 Oct 12 at 11:58am |
Not sure about that Rupert. Don't forget that we met a lot of them at the FOM Of course present company excepted
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Rodney Cobb
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winging it
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Posted: 22 Oct 12 at 12:13pm |
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we have our sailability committee meetings at the local golf club. Lovely place - friendly, welcoming, not at all sexist, affordable, fun. maybe I'm in the wrong sport.
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