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    Posted: 13 Oct 12 at 5:47pm
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Originally posted by 123standish

Yeah you made a good point. I have been offered a boss for less than £500 but it does not have a road base. Are the road bases a universal fitting I.e. a laser 4000 base would fit?

I think I need to post in the classifieds to see what is out there. 


ideally you'd need to measure the  the length of the trolley the Boss is sat on 

 that said there is often some flexibility in what trailer can take what boat  as i've used the same trailer to transport an Ent, a Solo or a laser  with straegic 'adaption'  of the fixing between the bow of the trolley and the  drawbar of the trailer - obviously  you are going to struggle to  get some trolleys onto some road bases  but  it would not suprise me if a ruoghly the correct length road base  won;t fit  a range of different boats with the majot differences  being confined to the cradles/ pads on the trolley


West Mersea, Sovereign and Rapide Trailers are not really interchangeable as such. Then each brand comes in 2 or 3 lengths. There are other brands too!
But most road bases rarely get used. If you can't borrow one from someone in your club, that would be a fairly sorry state of affairs.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote zippyRN Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Oct 12 at 4:12pm
Originally posted by 123standish

Yeah you made a good point. I have been offered a boss for less than £500 but it does not have a road base. Are the road bases a universal fitting I.e. a laser 4000 base would fit?

I think I need to post in the classifieds to see what is out there. 


ideally you'd need to measure the  the length of the trolley the Boss is sat on 

 that said there is often some flexibility in what trailer can take what boat  as i've used the same trailer to transport an Ent, a Solo or a laser  with straegic 'adaption'  of the fixing between the bow of the trolley and the  drawbar of the trailer - obviously  you are going to struggle to  get some trolleys onto some road bases  but  it would not suprise me if a ruoghly the correct length road base  won;t fit  a range of different boats with the majot differences  being confined to the cradles/ pads on the trolley
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Yeah you made a good point. I have been offered a boss for less than £500 but it does not have a road base. Are the road bases a universal fitting I.e. a laser 4000 base would fit?

I think I need to post in the classifieds to see what is out there. 
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Originally posted by AlexM

If I was looking for a skiff just for a laugh surely a 49er would be good. Pick one up for 1.5k - 2k
 
No brainer +1!
 
Owned 4000s, 5000s and 49ers. Wouldn't say a 49er is more difficult to sail than the 5000, just different. Need to be more athletic than brute. The 49er flows much better as a boat and is pretty easy to right in comparision to the 5000. 49er is easier on kite drops too. The 49er will keep you on your toes more as she is more responsive and quicker. If you have any doubts, pick up a very cheap 4k for a season, thrash it around, then step up to another boat. Wouldn't look at a 5000 and say it will be a lot more straight forward than the 49er. 180kg is a bit heavy for the 4000 but if it's just a boat to get you into skiff sailing can't go much wrong. If you are considering Boss's and 5000s, seriously look at the 49er.
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If you are at Rutland come and say hello to the 5000s should be a few there weekend of 20th as part of the Laser Open meeting which will also include the 4000s.....


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you know what you're doing with power and speed already. All you need to add is balance!
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Thanks for all the replies. 

My concern with a 49er and such boats is difficulty to sail. I have once been on an albercore but never a skiff. We are at Rutland so have plenty of space to sail. 
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If I was looking for a skiff just for a laugh surely a 49er would be good. Pick one up for 1.5k - 2k
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Max McCarthy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Oct 12 at 5:59pm
Originally posted by haroosh

Or an old I14? Loads of spares kicking about the class...
I agree, we have got an old (1987) penultimate 14, and it is great fun, so far all that has been had to be repaired was the mainsail and that was because I fell through it! Anyway, they are great fun, and not as expensive as other twin trap boats, ours was £400?

Then again, I am no expert on this matter, the only twin trap boat I have sailed is our 14 :)


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not sure you can get a replacement mast for the 5000.....
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