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    Posted: 18 Sep 12 at 8:26am
That picture makes my day looking forward to getting her on the sea.
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Lovely! Must be great at Lyme.

Russ, you need to get out of 505/Merlin "string for everything" thinking! That is not what the icon is about - it is simple, light, efficient.

Between the dangly pole and adjustable (off the water) tack height, you get plenty of leech control.

It's not necessary, but the jib track pads are big enough to fit the tracks longitudinally rather than transversely if you want to spec it that way (subject to class rules allowing it).

When do you get yours TR? Will it be white, or a jazzy central European colour scheme?
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Originally posted by Ruscoe

Looks great, must be a thrill in the lumps of Lyme (my favorite sailing location) One thing the Jibb seems awfully open at the top of the leech.  Have the controls for the jib changed now so you can control foot and leech tension?

The jib leech doesn't look to open to me. Main well off center line and slightly twisted, jib to match?

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Agreed Ruscoe, and this was noticed by others at the time although I think the jib is eased a bit too much at this point anyway, as suggested by the baggy luff. A little bit more sheet tension closes the leech considerably.

In any event, the jib sheets lead to a ratchet block on a track aligned fore and aft so there is plenty of scope to adjust foot and leech tension.

And yes, it is great fun in the lumps!

Photo courtesy of David Beer (LRSC Commodore) by the way.

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Possibly Ian.  In those conditions the way I would be sailing it today (that photo was in June) would be with the jib in slightly and the main eased a bit further. The boat would be flatter and it then just seems to power through the waves.  Very satisfying.
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Not sure i agree with you Ian, I thought Jib looked too open and the main was fairly close to center line.  Perhaps ts difficult to tell.

Toby, its not my 505 head mate, having an adjustable jib sheeting position is IMO critical, not sure what good a dangly pole is upwind?

Still im not Trolling, the Icon looks like a damn fine ship, how does she cope with the Lyme waves?

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I know your not trolling Russ. It's just the way you look.

It looks a few degress off close hauled to me (?), so pole v. useful.
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Originally posted by peterthomas


In any event, the jib sheets lead to a ratchet block on a track aligned fore and aft so there is plenty of scope to adjust foot and leech tension.



Thats the answer i was looking for, great stuff.  I couldnt remember from the dinghy show how the Jib was sheeted  Hence my questions as to Jib sheeting arrangement.  But simple track system is great, why over complicate, especially as its a OD.

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Originally posted by Peaky

Lovely! Must be great at Lyme.

Russ, you need to get out of 505/Merlin "string for everything" thinking! That is not what the icon is about - it is simple, light, efficient.

Between the dangly pole and adjustable (off the water) tack height, you get plenty of leech control.

It's not necessary, but the jib track pads are big enough to fit the tracks longitudinally rather than transversely if you want to spec it that way (subject to class rules allowing it).

When do you get yours TR? Will it be white, or a jazzy central European colour scheme?
She (ROXIE) has an uncertain delivery date, will ring Rodney next job. In theory the deck is Cambridge blue, I thought it would go well with the red on the sails. If she is badly delayed, Lesley (constant crew) is going to design something extreme, it is what she does for a job. I dread  the phone ringing and 03 going back to her owner, if it happens I will hopefully get another demonstrator. I really don't want to go back to the Finn, I enjoy the Icon and the company in the boat. It is such a learning curve I don't see anything other than back marking at the forumites event, but we need to get those miles on the clock!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote RS400atC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Sep 12 at 10:16am
Originally posted by peterthomas

Scottsfinn asked:
 
"How is the Icon. Your views, weights of crew etc. Any photos in a breeze?"
 
This was taken from the harbour wall at Lyme in June.  Yes alright, I know its not flat enough but it was early days.  With a bit more experience now I can say that in a breeze and waves and with the right technique, the upwind performance, in particular, is amazing.  But then so are the reaches!
 
Nicely summed up by a comment as I was leaving the club after last Sunday's racing "I bet you were quite pleased with that"
 
No bits have fallen off, although the helm did fall out yesterday!
 


That rig looks very powerful!
Have you sailed against the Merlins at Lyme? Couple of good ones there I think!
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